View Full Version : P4 or AMD???
ActiveMonkey
11-16-2003, 11:37 AM
- What would be better to get. An AMD Athlon XP 3200+, or a Intel 3.2Ghz P4?
- What would be faster for a computer that is mainly going to be playing games?
- And which could be over clocked higher?
DeadLamb
11-16-2003, 11:51 AM
You care about FPS? You NEVER move around.. I mean even 12 fps would be fine for the way you play, :sniper: not like that door you are zoomed on :sniper: "changes" all that much you lamer.
Plus, knowing your age and so on, I'm thinking it's a cold day in hell before you drop the $$$ needed to GET a 3200+ or a 3.2 and the rest of the gear needed to run that chip at 800fsb and so on.. CamperMonkey on a highend cpu? Heck you might as well be asking how to get a bra off a woman, something else you will NOT being doing any time soon..
As for the chips, you're pointing at the top end of cpus, both would work find for games being you can play every thing out now on a 2.2, never mind a 3.2... And why bother to OC a top end chip? 3.2 not fast enough!?
Errrrrr of course being an Intel whore I'd suggest an Intel set up....
ah I'm really pushing the Evil out today I see.. ummmmm I feel warm and fuzzy all over with evil happiness.. :grrr:
fishmonger
11-16-2003, 12:07 PM
I agree. Spend the money on a good chair and a pillow, so you can snooze while waiting for someone to walk by.
ActiveMonkey
11-16-2003, 12:24 PM
First of all, it is not camping. It is being in a Strategic Sniping Position.
Secondly, if it can be over clocked I’ll try it. Even if it is a 3.2 GHz.
Thirdly, where is a good place to buy a nice chair and pillow? I have looked but can't find a really nice one.
DeadLamb
11-16-2003, 12:44 PM
Originally posted by ActiveMonkey
First of all, it is not camping. It is being in a Strategic Sniping Position.
Oh in that case you are even a bigger lamer then I thought. Being I have watched you in 3rd person mode, sit and camp door "A" when someone came in door "B", took your flag and run out door "B"..
Now you would think with the "ARRRAAAAAAA" alarm sound that goes off, you might, just MIGHT think someone took your flag? Being you in the base, RIGHT next to the spawn/flag stand it MIGHT help the team to oh I don't know, TRY to stop him??? No you sit there and snipe the same door with zero care about the flag, the team, the team win or anything else..
You are hands down on of the worse players we have at the LAN.. If we did not like your brother so much I don't think we would even let you come to the lans anymore. See the thing you don't get is that it not the OTHER team that is bitching about your SHITTY LAME CAMPING.. Hell if your on the other team I don't care, you are DEAD weight on that team, 100% worthless for the team. Great camp all you want lamer..
No no no.. it when you are on the same team as Poncho and I and so on and we have to sit and watch you camp a roof for 10min, looking at a window in RS it tends to piss us off.. MORE so when time after time we are not winning the rounds being you are so worthless.
When your own team looks to ban you it might, just MIGHT be a sign that you are a POS who plays the game like an asshole
enervate
11-16-2003, 12:52 PM
Slow down Lamb, I think we're getting a little harsh. All in fun man.
DeadLamb
11-16-2003, 01:05 PM
Originally posted by enervate
Slow down Lamb, I think we're getting a little harsh. All in fun man.
I don't go to LANs to play with the same level of lamer I can find online....
Plus I have to break out the tank to swat a fly every now and then or I might as well have "Ambivalent" in my title and not "Evil".... :cow:
I did not just type in that title, I earned it. :grrr: You have no idea the level off warm fuzzys I get of the idea of someone clicking in to read an AMD vs Intel war and get pages of anti-camper lamer rant.. muhahahaha... Ah I think I will go kick my dog now.
Poncho
11-16-2003, 01:07 PM
Originally posted by DeadLamb
Oh in that case you are even a bigger lamer then I thought. Being I have watched you in 3rd person mode, sit and camp door "A" when someone came in door "B", took your flag and run out door "B"..
Now you would think with the "ARRRAAAAAAA" alarm sound that goes off, you might, just MIGHT think someone took your flag? Being you in the base, RIGHT next to the spawn/flag stand it MIGHT help the team to oh I don't know, TRY to stop him??? No you sit there and snipe the same door with zero care about the flag, the team, the team win or anything else..
You are hands down on of the worse players we have at the LAN.. If we did not like your brother so much I don't think we would even let you come to the lans anymore. See the thing you don't get is that it not the OTHER team that is bitching about your SHITTY LAME CAMPING.. Hell if your on the other team I don't care, you are DEAD weight on that team, 100% worthless for the team. Great camp all you want lamer..
No no no.. it when you are on the same team as Poncho and I and so on and we have to sit and watch you camp a roof for 10min, looking at a window in RS it tends to piss us off.. MORE so when time after time we are not winning the rounds being you are so worthless.
When your own team looks to ban you it might, just MIGHT be a sign that you are a POS who plays the game like an asshole
Yea....what he said.
xwred1
11-16-2003, 02:10 PM
You should go with an Athlon64 FX-51 and an Nvidia 5950 Ultra.
Because I will reveal to you that it is 64bit.
Bullfrog
11-16-2003, 02:29 PM
Man...I was all ready to jump in this thread and have some funny with ActiveMonkey. I can see that Deadlamb has already thrown the smack-down and no more is necessary.
ActiveMonkey
11-16-2003, 04:31 PM
I barely camp in Raven Shield anymore. Granted I still get into Strategic Sniping Positions now and then, but no where near as much as I use to.
Originally posted by DeadLamb
When your own team looks to ban you it might, just MIGHT be a sign that you are a POS who plays the game like an asshole
The only time that happens is when some nublet TKs me on purpose and then I drop a Frag Grenade at the next spawn to get retribution. It could have been avoided if the nublet had not TKed me or had said sorry if it was an accident.
Anyway, regardless of who the hell is camping or any bullshit like that, only one or person has really answered my original post of which CPU is better. Are there any other opinions of AMD 3200+ vs Intel 3.2GHz P4.
Moddy
11-16-2003, 04:39 PM
Originally posted by ActiveMonkey
I barely camp in Raven Shield because I hardly play it anymore. Granted I still get into Strategic Sniping Positions when I play, but no way can you consider the way I play to be 'helpful' to my team.
I am a nublet that resorts to TK'ing my team on purpose. It could have been avoided if I had ANY kind of skills in ANY FPS game I played.
Anyway, regardless of who the hell is camping or any bullshit like that, only one or person has really answered my original post of which CPU is better. Are there any other opinions of AMD 3200+ vs Intel 3.2GHz P4.
Fixed.
Moddy
11-16-2003, 04:39 PM
Oh, and go w/ the P4 3.2 800FSB, 2 gigs of Dual Channel DDR, a Raedon Pro 9800, and no mouse - just use the keyboard, as you never move anyway.
That is all.
ActiveMonkey
11-16-2003, 04:50 PM
Time to make some more T-Shirts, i think i'll use that PMS Rage control pic?
http://gotnorice.dynu.com/activemonkey/pms-mykul.jpg
Moddy
11-16-2003, 05:02 PM
Originally posted by ActiveMonkey
Time to make some more T-Shirts, i think i'll use that PMS Rage control pic?
[IMG]http://gotnorice.dynu.com/activemonkey/pms-mykul.jpg[IMG]
You might have to move the mouse to do that - are you qualified?
ActiveMonkey
11-16-2003, 05:05 PM
good point. hmm...
SHIT! i guess i can't make it after all.
DeadLamb
11-16-2003, 05:38 PM
Originally posted by ActiveMonkey
I barely camp in Raven Shield anymore..
yeah lie to yourself if you want..
if you think what you do is "movement" then you are going to be one dead fuck when you at long last get a shot at getting laid by your school's token fat chick in some portable tent set up in her backyard.
ActiveMonkey
11-16-2003, 05:51 PM
Hey, fat chicks need love to. And i can lie to myself all i want. But the truth is that from the first time i played RS to current time, i do camp less.
I really don't care if you believe that or not because your opinion is not held very highly in my book.
Bullfrog
11-16-2003, 06:03 PM
Originally posted by ActiveMonkey
Hey, fat chicks need love to. And i can lie to myself all i want. But the truth is that from the first time i played RS to current time, i do camp less.
I really don't care if you believe that or not because your opinion is not held very highly in my book.
Sniper is not a strategic capability but a tactical one. When done properly a sniper NEVER fires a second shot from the same location. It's called 'displacing'. The use of cover, concealment and stealth are the most important tactic. Running to a location and sitting there doesn't fall into ANY of those catagories.
So please don't try using words like 'Strategic Sniper Locations' because it doesn't exsist.
fishmonger
11-16-2003, 06:05 PM
Originally posted by ActiveMonkey
I really don't care if you believe that or not because your opinion is not held very highly in my book.
OMG, I'm sure he'll lose a lot of sleep knowing that.
Active, go read some hardware websites. Look at some benchmarks. Educate yourself. We don't want to do it for you.
Then buy something from Intel.
Aksen
11-16-2003, 06:10 PM
It might depend on your budget, however.
DeadLamb
11-16-2003, 06:21 PM
Originally posted by fishmonger
OMG, I'm sure he'll lose a lot of sleep knowing that.
yeah no kidding.. nothing like a player at level 2 (maybe) looking at a level 8 and going "Yeah but you don't know................."
as I said, as long as his worthless ass in not on my team I don't care what he does.. Sooner or later the games are going to swing back to high skill twitchy games and then everyone like Monkeyfucker will be doomed.. Being it only in the games now that sort of reward the camp and snipe moves... faster action games one needs to move.. we all know he can't move and aim at all.. I can wait..
as for the cpu... if your really looking to pound dads credit card down for a set up..
P4 3.2
Intel 875 MB.. ya get sata raid, gig network etc etc..
bunch of DDR
Ati $$ card...
19inch LCD screen...
DONE.............. but you are looking at some bank.. Skip the lcd, make the 3.2 a 2.6 or 2.8 and run the vidcard you have (if it at least a 9700) and your good to go for much less $$$$
Area51_FLG
11-16-2003, 06:31 PM
Um, guys... ( Lamby boy) Um, lets not get our panty's in an uproar.
Love, peace and harmoney.
Breathe in..... breathe out....
DeadLamb
11-16-2003, 06:52 PM
Originally posted by Area51_FLG
Breathe in..... breathe out....
it not that big of a deal but someone needs to have the stones to at the least POINT out and call someone on there shit game play. Camping and spawn killing drags down the games and drags down the level of the lan over all. Want to play like that, stay home and play online with all the other jerks.
ez for you to say it's no big deal as you were just playing "SOFII spam fest all night" where if door camper kills you, ya just spawn again in .2 seconds and run off to get killed again..
Poncho, fish and I, after working are ASS off hunting the other team, only to get killed being we lacked back up.. got to sit, in ghost mode and see are so are called "back up" sitting up on a roof.. Zoomed in on the ladder and a window.. then as the other team (looking to PLAY the game) hunted and hunted and hunted all over the map.. Monkeysperm sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat to the point we were SCREAMING at him to at least try to play.
Anything to end the mindnumbing wait.. Of course then after around 3 min of him camping the window the other team found him and killed him in .5 seconds before he even got a shot off.. sigh.. so in the end it was just a waste of time.. weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
hurts the game, hurts the lan.. I can't stop him from doing it but I'm not going to act like it ok.. Just go off and play in some other games then, we don't want him on are servers. We even PW locked him out one time. He is just that bad of a team player.. 100% worthless..
Bullfrog
11-16-2003, 07:17 PM
Originally posted by DeadLamb
hurts the game, hurts the lan.. I can't stop him from doing it but I'm not going to act like it ok.. Just go off and play in some other games then, we don't want him on are servers. We even PW locked him out one time. He is just that bad of a team player.. 100% worthless..
I agree totally with 'Lamb here. When Monkey started doing this everyone started off nice asking him to play with the team. After a couple different LANS people started getting pissed off with him about his attitude. When he was asked to stop Monkey started giving some attitude that camping the way he does is PART of the game. So far no one else agree's with him and we punish him without mercy! :ROFL:
Donnie_Doritos
11-16-2003, 07:22 PM
Could always use force
adminlogin password
kick player
or
votekick player for a vote
Beebo
11-16-2003, 07:58 PM
What donnie said.
I dont understand what the point is of camping, there is no stats setup so you cant whore it up over those and if you suck at a game people arent going to think different.
fishmonger
11-16-2003, 09:53 PM
I thought I'd post a little screenshot of In-ActiveMonkey "playing" SoF2 at the last FLG. It should just about wrap up this love-in.
SoF2. My God, man. That really is pitiful.
http://www.kirkendall.us/pics/activemonkey_camping.jpg
Silly
11-16-2003, 10:28 PM
Hey, I like this for sof2:
g_inactivity 0 " you hate campers ? ok set to 10 or higher) and if any camp or still waiting 10 sec. auto kick from server"
Although, I'd like it to be a death...
Still looking for something similar for RS... Though, that rule is tough for RS. Would be nice if you just didn't need to worry about it, but I'll leave that rant to Lamb. :D
ActiveMonkey
11-16-2003, 11:51 PM
Yeah I was sitting there so when they got the flag I could chase them down and kill them. But I never got a chance to try it because about 2 seconds after that Screen Shot was taken I was TKed.
And what Attitude, I got pissed because I was getting TKed in RS. Not because people said stop camping.
OnParole
11-17-2003, 02:27 AM
You deserve to get TK'd if you are just camping around like that... You need to save the BS for the rodeo and learn to play a game... have you ever wondered why you are always at the bottom of the kills list at the end of a game???? It's because your lame ass doesn't do shit....
As for the P4 or AMD debate... don't get either... your lame ass deserves a Macintosh.
termdec
11-17-2003, 04:05 AM
Back to the original topic...
Well, if you like money, get an AMD.
If you blow syphilitic, schizophrenic crack addicted communists for fun, get an Intel.
Even some Intel employees know that.
Now let's see some flames :eek:
Area51_FLG
11-17-2003, 07:18 AM
Originally posted by DeadLamb
it not that big of a deal but someone needs to have the stones to at the least POINT out and call someone on there shit game play. Camping and spawn killing drags down the games and drags down the level of the lan over all. Want to play like that, stay home and play online with all the other jerks.
ez for you to say it's no big deal as you were just playing "SOFII spam fest all night" where if door camper kills you, ya just spawn again in .2 seconds and run off to get killed again..
Poncho, fish and I, after working are ASS off hunting the other team, only to get killed being we lacked back up.. got to sit, in ghost mode and see are so are called "back up" sitting up on a roof.. Zoomed in on the ladder and a window.. then as the other team (looking to PLAY the game) hunted and hunted and hunted all over the map.. Monkeysperm sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat sat to the point we were SCREAMING at him to at least try to play.
Anything to end the mindnumbing wait.. Of course then after around 3 min of him camping the window the other team found him and killed him in .5 seconds before he even got a shot off.. sigh.. so in the end it was just a waste of time.. weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
hurts the game, hurts the lan.. I can't stop him from doing it but I'm not going to act like it ok.. Just go off and play in some other games then, we don't want him on are servers. We even PW locked him out one time. He is just that bad of a team player.. 100% worthless..
Level headed Area51:
Hey there sunshine.... I was just trying to keep the peace. I understand your frustration, but don't get pissed at me. ( I need to see the old LAMBY back.. You know the level headed guy that kept the cool in all the LANtro boards... Definetly seeing a different side)
Point is, yeh he camps, yeh it pisses you off . OK, ok, you made your points. Lets not let this turn into a HATE BOARD. ( You know, like when I use to rip Cygnus)
MONKEY: Quite simple, this country is a democracy. So, if everyone doesn't like your style of gameplay ( this would be the case) then you should have enough respect to change your ways. If if you can't, well, then, I can assure you one of 3 things are gonna happen.
1. Ass kicked
2. BANNED
3. Asked to leave the LAN.
There we go. Spoken like like a true level headed moderator. No Flames, just possible solutions.
Peace
DeadLamb
11-17-2003, 08:01 AM
Originally posted by Area51_FLG
but don't get pissed at me.
I don't get upset at much of anything or anyone..
Ranting at a POS like Monkeyblower has next to nothing to do with any sort of feeling or cares or anything else of worth.. it's just a rant, nothing more nothing less.. It's not even to the level of flame yet..
Every board has one whipping boy and LANtro's was Pycho but he is not dropping enough ammo for it anymore over here.. sooooooooooooo it's Monkeyfucker now...
hey and thanks for quoting my whole post again, ya know being I might of forgot what I wrote all of a few hours ago :rolleyes: (see THAT is an example of a :grrr: flame :grrr: hehehehe)
Boards are no fun if it's nothing but happy puppy petting and ego stroking.. Think of it as prison.. ya rather have guys running around raping everyone "just a little bit" or have them really, really gang rape one little guy over and over and over.. Yeah thought so, long as you're not the guy getting punked...
INactivecamperlamer is the guy bent over right now. :lambjump:
but he is free to play how ever he wants.. I mean I don't think one gets banned from the LAN for playing lame. Soon as it stops, it's all good again.. Till then I keep being ruthless being I only have two modes... Normal and then 100% unfair.
ActiveMonkey
11-17-2003, 09:12 AM
If it means so much to everyone, I will fight the camping addiction and try not to camp.
However even I don't camp the whole day except for one time when for a few second the game gets minimized by AIM or something and I can't move. I will still be labeled the world’s largest camper.
Bullfrog
11-17-2003, 09:15 AM
Originally posted by ActiveMonkey
If it means so much to everyone, I will fight the camping addiction and try not to camp.
However even I don't camp the whole day except for one time when for a few second the game gets minimized by AIM or something and I can't move. I will still be labeled the world’s largest camper.
That's an EASY solution....turn-off AIM, MSN, etc. :chair:
ActiveMonkey
11-17-2003, 11:29 AM
Yeah, but then AIM is off. And all of my dumbass friends won't be able to tell me what games/movies they want. But i can always put an away message on and hide the message box, and disable the sound.
But if for any reason i am bumped out of the game it will make no differance what happened, it will still be labeled camping. Even if i am in a room, looking at a blank wall with the door closed and nothing in my hands, it will still be considered camping.
DeadLamb
11-17-2003, 11:48 AM
Originally posted by ActiveMonkey
Yeah, but then AIM is off. And all of my dumbass friends won't be able to tell me what games/movies they want.
yes god forbit you talk to them a few days before hand.. It's pretty pathetic if when at a LAN where you could meet and make **gasp** new friends.. you sit there HAVE to be connected over the net with whoever. Just turn all that stuff off....
Geeeeeeeeeeesh.. get them to come to the LAN too if they want anything or just get whatever you want and if they don't like, tough shit..
Are you such a punk you have to be connect over the net and "take orders" as to what they want and so on?!?!? Ya need to buy them off with something so they will talk to you at school!?? .... good lord..
Leeching works like this ------ "Here is what I have. If ya want it, no big deal. If you do not, oh well."
Get a spine..
LOL Just saw your quote Lamb. :D
Buy an Intel, they're good I hear. Get off the notion that you have to overclock though. It's a waste of time.
ActiveMonkey
11-17-2003, 02:33 PM
Originally posted by DeadLamb
Are you such a punk you have to be connect over the net and "take orders" as to what they want and so on?!?!? Ya need to buy them off with something so they will talk to you at school!?? .... good lord..
I don't buy them off, but this is one way i can repay favors, or money that they have loaned me. I don't have to pay them shit. Or as a friend i can give a friend an anti-virus program or something.
I think you just like to get your E-spank on over IM.
And your comment that fat chicks need love too? No they don't. They're fat cause god doesn't want them to procreate and produce more fat people. Natures way of saying, "DON'T TOUCH," much like the case of a cactus or porccupine.
If a fat chick gets skinny and looks good, it's only to fool some poor sap into picking them up, then they explode again, you divorce them, but they still have half your money to get thin again and trap someone else.
ActiveMonkey
11-17-2003, 03:45 PM
lol, natural selection at its finest.
OnParole
11-17-2003, 05:15 PM
Like I said before he deserves a Macintosh
xwred1
11-17-2003, 08:09 PM
Warez is illegal.
VitaMan
11-17-2003, 08:24 PM
Originally posted by xwred1
Warez is illegal.
No... Really? Wow, thanks for telling everyone! I'm sure everyone will immediately stop now that they've been informed that it is illegal...
Moddy
11-17-2003, 08:32 PM
Originally posted by VitaMan
No... Really? Wow, thanks for telling everyone! I'm sure everyone will immediately stop now that they've been informed that it is illegal...
**deleted**
DeadLamb
11-17-2003, 08:41 PM
Originally posted by MyKuL
**deleted** hide information and evidence, again
well I'm sure if you start to lead by example then it will be all good...
ah the pure joy this thread has brought me..
Moddy
11-17-2003, 08:42 PM
Originally posted by DeadLamb
well I'm sure if you start to lead by example then it will be all good...
ah the pure joy this thread has brought me..
There is a fine line between being obnoxious and just fucking with people. Put your tinfoil mask back on :)
Area51_FLG
11-17-2003, 08:44 PM
Originally posted by VitaMan
No... Really? Wow, thanks for telling everyone! I'm sure everyone will immediately stop now that they've been informed that it is illegal...
Vita: I just gotta say this casue. 1. I know you'll appreciate it and 2. I just gotta say it.
Glen, you talk alllllooootttttt of shit for a guy that have never been to one FLG event. I mean, your like George Castanda's Dad......
I think about 75% of the people here are wondering who the fuck you are. No flames bro, but, it might hold some credibilty if you actually showed up to a LAN.
Just some food for thought. No flames, casue I actually like ya. :-)
MOD: Chill out Ass Pirate. Just some friendly ripp'n going on here
Area51_FLG
11-17-2003, 08:53 PM
Man O man the shit is Flying
xwred1
11-17-2003, 10:30 PM
I'm just looking out for FLG. Would hate to see missed sponsorships or anything like that because someone warezed the wrong thing on here.
VitaMan
11-18-2003, 10:37 AM
Originally posted by Area51_FLG
never been to one FLG event. I mean, your like George Castanda's Dad
Hehe... I'll admit that sometimes it is a mindset (ie, used to the other place) and sometimes forget it is here not there... but, several of them do know me from there! That said, at this moment, I actually plan on gracing ya'll with my presence at 007 (sans PC, but to hang out) since it looks like I'll be in town finally on the same weekend as a LAN!
Of course, I am tempted to load my PC (install games), then camp/snipe -- InActive is my hero :)
just kidding!
BTW, I have to admit my sarcasm was a bit much on that earlier reply... I'd just gotten home from longass day and was replying sarcastically to what I thought was an equally sarcastic post (ie, stating the obvious)... sorry if I took it wrong!
Moddy
11-18-2003, 10:39 AM
Originally posted by VitaMan
Hehe... I'll admit that sometimes it is a mindset (ie, used to the other place) and sometimes forget it is here not there... but, several of them do know me from there! That said, at this moment, I actually plan on gracing ya'll with my presence at 007 (sans PC, but to hang out) since it looks like I'll be in town finally on the same weekend as a LAN!
Of course, I am tempted to load my PC (install games), then camp/snipe -- InActive is my hero :)
just kidding!
BTW, I have to admit my sarcasm was a bit much on that earlier reply... I'd just gotten home from longass day and was replying sarcastically to what I thought was an equally sarcastic post (ie, stating the obvious)... sorry if I took it wrong!
Quoted so he can't change it once the drugs wear off.
Anasazi
11-18-2003, 10:51 AM
I think I'll just stay out of this one.
<Prop up feet and grab popcorn>
VitaMan
11-18-2003, 11:53 AM
Originally posted by MyKuL
Quoted so he can't change it once the drugs wear off.
Awwww.... I knew you <3 me :bear:
Moddy
11-18-2003, 12:04 PM
Originally posted by VitaMan
Awwww.... I knew you <3 me :bear:
HOLY SHIT GET THIS MAN SOME MORE DRUGS, STAT!
Beebo
11-18-2003, 03:57 PM
We're LOSING HIM!
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