Libby Indicted! More to come! Rove next!

[honestplayer]

apologies, i am dancing at my desk at work :) Rove next!

I seriously hope they get info on Cheney and get him as well. Then the growing Bush-Resign! buzz will get even louder. Of course, it would mean C. Rice becoming President, but I can at least live with that much easier. :) wooo-hooo!

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Cheney Adviser Indicted in CIA Leak Case

By JOHN SOLOMON and PETE YOST, Associated Press Writers
2 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - Vice presidential adviser I. Lewis "Scooter' Libby Jr. was indicted Friday on charges of obstruction of justice, making a false statement and perjury in the CIA leak case.

Karl Rove, President Bush's closest adviser, escaped indictment Friday but remained under investigation, his legal status a looming political problem for the White House.

The indictments stem from a two-year investigation by special counsel Patrick Fitzgerald into whether Rove, Libby or any other administration officials knowingly revealed the identity of CIA agent Valerie Plame or lied about their involvement to investigators.

The five-count indictment accuses Libby of lying about how and when he learned about CIA official Valerie Plane's identity in 2003 and then told reporters about it. The information was classified.

Any trial would shine a spotlight on the secret deliberations of Bush and his team as they built the case for war against Iraq.

Bush ordered U.S. troops to war in March 2003, saying Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction program posed a grave and immediate threat to the United States. No such weapons were found. The U.S. military death toll climbed past 2,000 this week.

Moments before the indictments were released, Bush stepped off Marine One on the South Lawn of the White House after a brief trip to Norfolk, Va. As the documents were released, Cheney was giving a speech in Georgia.

Libby, 55, is considered Cheney's alter ego, a chief architect of the war with Iraq. A trial would give the public a rare glimpse into Cheney's influential role in the West Wing and his behind-the-scenes lobbying for war.

Though Libby has worked in relative obscurity, he is one of the administration's influential advisers because of his proximity to Cheney, one of the most powerful vice presidents in history.

According to the indictment, Libby also engaged in obstruction of justice by impeding Fitzgerald's investigation.

The charges, though serious, are likely to be portrayed by some Republicans as technicalities.

Trying to put a brave face on one of the darkest days of his presidency, Bush traveled to Norfolk, Va., earlier in the day to deliver a speech on terrorism. "Thanks for the chance to get out of Washington," he said.

Rove's lawyer said he was told by special prosecutor Fitzgerald's office that investigators would continue their probe into the aide's conduct. Fitzgerald's office said Rove would not be indicted Friday, said people close to the Republican strategist, speaking only on condition of anonymity because of grand jury secrecy. Rove is deputy White House chief of staff.

[snu66les]

LOL, give me a break... This is just a good old fashioned witch hunt. The libs will stopo at nothing to get GW out of office. Notice how in the indictment there's no mention of outing anyone in the CIA, they indicted him on lying. I like how libs can make tons of statements about one thing to get everyone up in arms then indict for something completely different (because they had no case otherwise IMO). I'm not condoning the lying part, but it's just nuts how this played out on the part of the media and libs. I wouldn't take anything the mainstream media says as gospel, ever...

[Moddy]

Originally posted by honestplayer
apologies, i am dancing at my desk at work :) I hope that desk is made of steel.....

[fishmonger]

I'm sure this brings you glee. It just makes me fucking sick to my stomach. I'm so distrustful of gov't anymore that as far I'm concerned, we should can them all and start over. Seems like everyone in Washington hardly pass muster as human frickin' beings.

[Avery Hawk]

I think we need to start a "grassroots"movment called "None of the Above"

Insted of voting for the lesser of two evils or who ever the party throws at us, we vote this little box called none of the above. It the none of the above wins non of the canidits can ever run for that position ever again.

Goverment has forgotten that it is "By the people for the people" and changed it into "Fuck the people for my wallet".... and before the cheers and/or flames start.

That goes for ALL politicians I don't care what your party leanings are ALL poilticians are out to fuck the people if there is a payday in it for them. /rant

[honestplayer]

I like how libs can make tons of statements about one thing to get everyone up in arms then indict for something completely different (because they had no case otherwise IMO).

sort of like the zealots who ran after clinton, couldnt find sh*tola, then tried to indict him to hell and impeach him? nothing illegal about blow jobs? or is it what they want?

i guess then, we're all guilty ('cept maybe snu66les) :ROFL:

KEEP ORAL SEX FREE! goddammit. :D

[honestplayer]

I hope that desk is made of steel.....

haha, i think i registered a 4.0 at the CALtech siesmograph offices! :D

:ROFL:

[Moddy]

Originally posted by honestplayer
...sort of like the zealots who ran after clinton...

1. Wasnt' me.
2. So does that mean that 2 wrongs makes a right?
3. :care:

[snu66les]

He was impeached because he lied under oath... How is that the same thing? If he had just said "Yep, had sex with her" no one (short of moral disagreement) could have said otherwise.

My point here is that everyone was sold on the idea he'd be indicted for selling out a CIA operative, and that's not the case at all. They simply used one fire to fuel another. IMO it's not the same thing. I appreciate your point of view, I just think it's coming from the heart (not a bad thing per se) and not facts.

I could have a whole different conversation about matters of concience, but this thread is certainly not the place. :)

[Defiant One]

Originally posted by fishmonger
Seems like everyone in Washington D.C.hardly pass muster as human frickin' beings.

Quoted for clarification...;)

[Sex Fruit]

Originally posted by snu66les
He was impeached because he lied under oath... How is that the same thing? If he had just said "Yep, had sex with her" no one (short of moral disagreement) could have said otherwise.

My point here is that everyone was sold on the idea he'd be indicted for selling out a CIA operative, and that's not the case at all. They simply used one fire to fuel another. IMO it's not the same thing. I appreciate your point of view, I just think it's coming from the heart (not a bad thing per se) and not facts.

I could have a whole different conversation about matters of concience, but this thread is certainly not the place. :)

QFMT!

[Sex Fruit]

Originally posted by honestplayer
Of course, it would mean C. Rice becoming President, but I can at least live with that much easier. :) wooo-hooo!

You are a total dumbass, you do realize this....right?

Order of Presidential succession would be Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert after the VP. Condi is #4 in line after President pro tempore of the Senate Ted Stevens.

Thank god you work for the other side thats all I have to say.

It's no wonder everyone on these forums discounts everything you say, you are not even informed enough to make true statements.......but wait that is a "Democratic/Liberal" trait so I guess I cannot really blame you.

Do your research before you post and quit looking like the lameass you obviously are. :fu:

:rant: off

[honestplayer]

actually its cheney resigns, rice gets appointed. bush resigns. rice becomes president.

you need to get a grip - oh i forgot - that is how republicans work. spew and shout bullsh*t till everyone believes the crap your saying.

right now you are in the minority. republicans arent conservative, they're zealots.

the only difference between those idiots in tehran spewing sh*t about their enemies and the idiots in DC spewing their venom - is that our DC idiots have a bigger arsenal of weapons and options. its still the same radical right wing extremist sh*t, over zealous republican christian fundies or radical islam idiots running the country, moderate folks get screwed.

[Sex Fruit]

Originally posted by honestplayer
actually its cheney resigns, rice gets appointed. bush resigns. rice becomes president.

Actually the 25th amendment ,section 2 allows that if there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress. He would most likely follow the order of presidential succession and nominate Hastert.

So once again...you are wrong (big surprise)

Originally posted by honestplayer
you need to get a grip - oh i forgot - that is how republicans work. spew and shout bullsh*t till everyone believes the crap your saying.
right now you are in the minority. republicans arent conservative, they're zealots.

Wow, do you ever read the stuff that you write? Im in the minority???? Thats why Republicans have the house, senate and Whitehouse?
You can spin it all you want HP, but your just lying through your teeth as usual.

Originally posted by honestplayer
the only difference between those idiots in tehran spewing sh*t about their enemies and the idiots in DC spewing their venom - is that our DC idiots have a bigger arsenal of weapons and options. its still the same radical right wing extremist sh*t, over zealous republican christian fundies or radical islam idiots running the country

You certainly do follow the party line well. Does www.bleedingheartliberal.com send you out talking points via email every day? To compare DC and Tehran just shows what an ignoramus you truly are. On one hand you have a radical theocracy that enslaves its people and makes them follow idiotic religious laws, on the other you have the freely elected administration of the US and its basis in personal liberties and jusice. Just how fucking stupid are you to even mention Tehran and DC in the same sentence.......shame on you.I think you should seek citizenship in some other country that is not as evil as the US, if this country is as corrupt as you seem to think it is GET THE FUCK OUT!!!! but dont be bitter because Red america is predominant and over powering the bitter, shrill bunch of losers that has become the american left (IE DEMOCRATS)



Originally posted by honestplayer
moderate folks get screwed.

You are about as moderate as Ward Churchill,Noam Chomsky and Michael Moore combined.

Sell crazy someplace else.........we're all stocked up here.

[Moddy]

Originally posted by EwokPenis
www.bleedingheartliberal.com

I clicked that :(

[Repairman Jack]

Originally posted by snu66les
He was impeached because he lied under oath... How is that the same thing? If he had just said "Yep, had sex with her" no one (short of moral disagreement) could have said otherwise.

My point here is that everyone was sold on the idea he'd be indicted for selling out a CIA operative, and that's not the case at all. They simply used one fire to fuel another. IMO it's not the same thing. I appreciate your point of view, I just think it's coming from the heart (not a bad thing per se) and not facts.

I could have a whole different conversation about matters of concience, but this thread is certainly not the place. :)

Actually, it's exactly the same thing. Clinton lied, Libby lied and both had a witch hunt after them. The only difference is the party carrying out the witch hunt. Meh...

[BIGKahuna]

Originally posted by Repairman Jack
Actually, it's exactly the same thing. Clinton lied, Libby lied and both had a witch hunt after them. The only difference is the party carry on the witch hunt. Meh...

I can not agree more politics has become so divisive I can barely stomach to watch any of it on television.

[honestplayer]

funny thing is i dont have time for this BS. i would look things up or whatnot - but the friggin truth is no one is gonna change their mind.

but I dare EWOK to back up his politics and beleifs - ENLIST!

its the same old same old - i walk the streets in marches and pickets because i back up my beleifs - so let's see if a conservative will back up his BS and back up what he supports.

he says he would proudly back his claims to sacrifice family - then DO IT!

[Sex Fruit]

Originally posted by honestplayer
funny thing is i dont have time for this BS. i would look things up or whatnot - but the friggin truth is no one is gonna change their mind.

Same kind of shit you people always say when you are losing a conversation. If you are not gonna change anyones mind please QUIT POSTING YOUR STUPID PARTISAN SHIT!

Originally posted by honestplayer
but I dare EWOK to back up his politics and beleifs - ENLIST!

its the same old same old - i walk the streets in marches and pickets because i back up my beleifs - so let's see if a conservative will back up his BS and back up what he supports.

he says he would proudly back his claims to sacrifice family - then DO IT!

Hahaha you dumb son of a bitch!
http://www.fusionlangaming.net/1105/Justin MP1.JPG


HOWS THAT?

I served 8 glorious years in the US ARMY. Got out as an E-5 Sergent and served in Panama, Costa Rica, Germany, Bosnia, and Haiti

This picture was taken of me in 1997 in Heidelberg, Germany.

I served my time HP.......what the fuck have you ever done for this country except for carry a sign and bitch.

DONT EVER QUESTION MY LOYALTY TO MY COUNTRY YOU GODDAMN LIBERAL SWINE!

nuff said

[Defiant One]

I think I love you man, and I'm nowhere near republican...

:heart: :heart: :heart:

You've actually given me a reason to come back and read this section of the forum..

[Donnie_Doritos]

haha.lol

I eagerly await the next episode

[Avery Hawk]

Even I knew Ewok Served in the Army....I was waiting for HP to try and talk some smack like that.... Bravo Ewok and thank you for your time in the service and to Spec too....

[Swagger]

Originally posted by Avery Hawk
Even I knew Ewok Served in the Army....I was waiting for HP to try and talk some smack like that.... Bravo Ewok and thank you for your time in the service and to Spec too....

Dont forget DO also

[Avery Hawk]

well DO is hardly forgetable....thanks to you too Gary

[Swagger]

Originally posted by honestplayer
but I dare EWOK to back up his politics and beleifs - ENLIST!

its the same old same old - i walk the streets in marches and pickets because i back up my beleifs - so let's see if a conservative will back up his BS and back up what he supports.

he says he would proudly back his claims to sacrifice family - then DO IT!

Originally posted by EwokPenis
Hahaha you dumb son of a bitch!

HOWS THAT?

I served 8 glorious years in the US ARMY. Got out as an E-5 Sergent and served in Panama, Costa Rica, Germany, Bosnia, and Haiti

This picture was taken of me in 1997 in Heidelberg, Germany.

I served my time HP.......what the fuck have you ever done for this country except for carry a sign and bitch.

DONT EVER QUESTION MY LOYALTY TO MY COUNTRY YOU GODDAMN LIBERAL SWINE!

nuff said

http://www.fusionlangaming.net/1105/honestOWNED.jpg

[Sex Fruit]

OMFG ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pure comic gold!

Thanks Swagger.................:ROFL: :heart: :heart: :heart:

[Avery Hawk]

LOL LOL :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL:

Swagger you kill me! :D

[Moddy]

Swagger - did you use a pic of YOUR balls for that chop?!??!?!

[Sex Fruit]

Originally posted by MyKuL
Swagger - did you use a pic of YOUR balls for that chop?!??!?!

Nope, that came from a Own3ed picture that has a guy teabagging some stoned chick. sorry to kill the illusion mykul :(

[Moddy]

Originally posted by EwokPenis
Nope, that came from a Own3ed picture that has a guy teabagging some stoned chick. sorry to kill the illusion mykul :(

Damn. Kinda figured that tho - they looked a little large to be Swaggers - but on the same note, they are nicely shaven like his head - so I had some false hopes I guess.

[Hoss]

Originally posted by honestplayer
but I dare EWOK to back up his politics and beleifs - ENLIST!

its the same old same old - i walk the streets in marches and pickets because i back up my beleifs - so let's see if a conservative will back up his BS and back up what he supports.

I served in the military as well, Navy Submarine Force 94-98, volunteered for the Navy, then volunteered AGAIN for Sub duty.

Sorry to say HP, but you're in the minority of those who can't claim they have actually supported their country & the rights I/you enjoy daily. It's very aparent who is who in a military community (such as a submarine). While there are liberals amongst those serving, it's about a 90%/10% split.

Hard for me to hold any weight to anything some tree hugging liberal activist is trying to throw in my face when the majority of their "ammunition" comes from people whom themselves haven't done one thing to better our country save pay taxes.

Remarks like that put you in the same class of person that would throw trash at a returning veteran, or even the protestor who pays their own money to have a service members car towed (true story). Those are the people that need to be lined up in front of a firing squad.

You're not too old to join the reserves.... What the fuck are you doing?

[honestplayer]

f*ck it - imma still gonna be a liberal and he can still be a conservative. nothing changes. btw - how the f am i supposed to know that.

imma still gonna work for the dem party and support angelides for governor and do my work with labor - no matter - your still in the minority in california and changes are coming no matter what you think.

by the way i served 4 years in sacramento and 5 years in oakland in public serving on commissions which is my way of doing it peacefully. i also served on the school commission in los angeles for 4 years. so i waas responsible for creating jobs, getting money for libraries and parks, and getting kids education. if you have a f*ckin problem with it fine, but i also do my time in more productive ways.

my dad served in the deep CIA and covert military (we're tibetans and he was on several anti-communist missions). my cousin is a 3 star general at the pentagon. and my other cousin is head of the marine barracks protecting that pentagon. not bad for only a first generation family in terms of military service as well.

i'll respect the uniform but it still doesn't give you any right to act like an obnoxious windbag when you started the goddamn flame war.

[honestplayer]

before you go about saying all the great stuff about the uniform - sure i'll respect it.

but you know that spending time on the oakland budget committee making sure that police get bullet proof vests, firemen get the 4x4s, and whatnot, its just as satisfying. making sure people have good paying jobs. how about the housing ordinance i pushed through that provided 10k new homes to families when i was on the housing task force. or maybe getting $2.2m for extracirricular ed courses for kids at LAUSD. or just now, getting pricewaterhousecooper to commit building a womens and childrens center just last month.

i respect your sh*t, but maybe you oughtta take a deep look and think about the difference a whole lotta peacemakers make as well everyday.

no one has a monopoly on doing good.

[honestplayer]

i f*ckin give. didn't know kay.

still won't stop me from celebrating the LIBBY's possible 30 year jail term.

so he served, fine, i'll respect that.

[Hoss]

Didn't know that you had done that much stuff throughout your life HP, but don't tread on the good deads of family members & the fact that your Dad served. My Dad actually dodged the Vietnam draft, but that doesn't make me less patriotic cause he didn't go serve, in turn you're no more patriotic cause your father or cousin did.

I aplaud your accomplishments. Seems you should focus your energy on that rather than the bitch fest that this forum section is.

[Vandalous]

Are these all YOUR accomplishments HP or those of the teams/committees you participated in?

Also, why do you spend time antagonizing people in these forums when you know that the vast majority are either conservative or just do not care about what you post? One of the reasons you probably don't get many replies is that people put you on their ignore list.

[honestplayer]

actually a simple comment would have sufficed. i hadn't even been in the forums for about a week and than BAM - EP's all over with some pretty viscious personal sh*t. wtf is his problem when he can clearly read that its not something he would like.

i ran into EP i think at ModestoLAN once or twice. i don't know what his problem is, as most FLG know imma pretty political, but just ignore it. he's got issues or something because if he can't take yahoo news or just a snippet off talk radio which is what i posted about, then he's not exactly in touch with reality.

and to tell you the truth, its only probably a small portion of what i post so i just forget it after awhile and let them die.

btw, most of those commmittee/commissions i led in some role. and yes, i still do it as i work at a foundation where i generate money for stuff every day for people who need it to survive. i would say that is pretty damn American and patriotic.

[fishmonger]

Air Force here.

[atsui]

No enlistment here, and I will definately dodge the draft when Bush enables it again. I am damn proud to be against violence as a use to create peace. This war is a mockery of peace efforts by those like Gandhi and Galtung. And anyone who thinks they are more patriotic than me for my beliefs can think what they want, who gives a shit? You cannot judge the patriotism of another, it's like trying to judge happiness. It is not something you can put tangible value to. And you'll never know the full story anyway if you spend all your time making snap judgements rather than actually listen to someone. I found that people on here, they don't want to listen, they just want to get in the best insult. I'll have no part in that, thank you.

And that HP, is your flaw. You care too much for the opinions of nationalist extremists. Let it go man. At the end of the day, do you want to die knowing you wasted your time getting upset on these bullshit arguments on FLG? I sure as hell don't. :heart:

Like Vandalous said, most on these boards are conservatives. Opinions will not be swayed, ignorance (on BOTH sides) will not be cured. So what is the point for the political forum except a place where people can take their hostilities out on others, but with a good excuse?


GM

[fishmonger]

Originally posted by Girl_Monster
I am damn proud to be against violence as a use to create peace.

That is an extremely naive thing to say on so many levels.

[Defiant One]

Originally posted by Girl_Monster
So what is the point for the political forum except a place where people can take their hostilities out on others, but with a good excuse?

I think that the term "safety valve" applies in this case. It's an outlet for what would spill into the "everyday" forum sections.

/Captain Obvious

[Sex Fruit]

Originally posted by Girl_Monster
No enlistment here, and I will definately dodge the draft when Bush enables it again.

Well, he has UNEQUIVOCALLY stated that he will not re-enable the draft. I can just feel the angst issuing forth from you when his term has ended and he still hasn't done it......

Originally posted by Girl_Monster
I am damn proud to be against violence as a use to create peace.

As Fish said naive at best......dangerous at worst. Terrorists and their ilk do not respect peaceable solutions. The only thing a terrorist respects is the sword and brute strength. Peace is a good thing, I am all for it. But unfortunately we live in a violent world where evil can rear its ugly head anytime. This is a quote from Zell Miller (Democrat) that I find perfectly illustrates my feelings on our defense of our nation:

"A few weeks ago, we were doing some work on my back porch back home, tearing out a section of old stacked rocks, when all of a sudden I uncovered a nest of copperhead snakes.A copperhead will kill you. It could kill one of my dogs. It could kill one of my grandchildren. It could kill any of my four great grandchildren. They play all the time where I found these killers. And you know, when I discovered these copperheads, I didn't call my wife Shirley and ask her advice, like I do on most things. I didn't yell for help from my neighbors or take it to the city council I just took a hoe and knocked them in the head and killed them. Dead as a doorknob. I guess you could call it a unilateral action. Or pre-emptive or even bellicose and reactive I took their poisonous heads off because they were a threat to me. And they were a threat to my home and my family. They were a threat to all I hold dear"

If I see a snake, a poisonous snake, Im gonna kill it. Now, lets say you being the peace loving person that you are, maybe if you give that snake a hug, he will be nice........ but maybe not. Saddam, Osama,Iran,Syria....the poisonous snakes that threaten everything I hold near and dear.....I say kill em all with a clear conscience. Sometimes you have to do the un-peaceable thing to achieve a peaceful result. Just ask Neville Chamberlain, The british PM when Hitler rose to power in the late 30's. Appeasement and peacable solutions do not work when you are dealing with crazy,evil men.period


Originally posted by Girl_Monster
This war is a mockery of peace efforts by those like Gandhi and Galtung.

The war was nerver sold as a peace effort, It was a pre-emptive strike to prevent our enemies from having the upperhand. What I find cool also is the fact that we introduced a frightened , terrified crushed country to democracy for the first time in 0ver 35 years......the Iraqi people are free, make no mistake about that.


Originally posted by Girl_Monster
And anyone who thinks they are more patriotic than me for my beliefs can think what they want, who gives a shit? You cannot judge the patriotism of another, it's like trying to judge happiness. It is not something you can put tangible value to.

I strongly disagree with you here. A soldier who makes the ultimate commitment to risk life and limb in the defense of his country is more patriotic than an armchair quarterback who sits back and reaps the rewards of this free country without ever risking anything in its defense.
I think military service should be compulsory from 18-20. Military service is a good way to teach young people the value of their country, along with the benefits of discipline and a good work ethic that comes from the training.

Originally posted by Girl_Monster
And you'll never know the full story anyway if you spend all your time making snap judgements rather than actually listen to someone. I found that people on here, they don't want to listen, they just want to get in the best insult. I'll have no part in that, thank you.

I read and contemplate every single word that HP posts in here... I jsut dont agree with it...at all. if you look back at his posts in this forum all you see is the following:

Libby Indicted!!!!! Rove next!!!!!!!!
Cheney Implicated!!!!!!!!111

Notice a pattern with the exclamation points? HP is a prime example of the Democratic party in this day and age, they are all about the politics of personal destruction. That nerves me to no end. On top of the fact that the majority of what he posts is not based in fact , or from some liberal rag like the huffingtonpost. Then when you ask him to defend his falsehoods with supporting information he feigns that hes "too busy" to respond to that. I beleive in facts, he does not. That pisses me off everytime. As for insults, I try to keep them at a minimum, but I consider almost everything that HP posts as an insult. it insults my intelligence, my dignity and my want for truth. Just like when I finally pushed him into a corner and all of his rhetoric had failed him he went to that old liberal standby, calling me a "Chicken Hawk" (not his words) by saying that if I beleive so much in my country why dont I enlist. In typical HP/Democratic/Liberal (insert Name here) fashion he did not have the hindsight to see if I had ever served.And now thats failed him hes fallen back to the same old liberal mantra talking points,Its like they send this shit out to all liberals as a fall back measure.
When the Conservatives are making sense, USE THIS !!!!!!!

THERE WERE NO MASS WEAPONS OF DESTRUCTION

SADDAM DIDNT POSE A NATIONAL SECURITY THREAT

IN FACT, SADDAM HELPED BALANCE THE POWER AS AN ENEMY OF IRAN.

THERE WAS NO YELLOW CAKE COMING FROM AFRICA.

THERE WAS NO TIES WITH IRAQ AND AL QUIDA.

AD NAUSEUM :puke:

He probably rocks himself to sleep at night repeating the above like a roasary until he falls into a fitful sleep




Originally posted by Girl_Monster
And that HP, is your flaw. You care too much for the opinions of nationalist extremists. Let it go man. At the end of the day, do you want to die knowing you wasted your time getting upset on these bullshit arguments on FLG? I sure as hell don't. :heart:

My flaw is I cannot stand dis-information, and thats all HP is.

Originally posted by Girl_Monster
Like Vandalous said, most on these boards are conservatives. Opinions will not be swayed, ignorance (on BOTH sides) will not be cured. So what is the point for the political forum except a place where people can take their hostilities out on others, but with a good excuse?

Ignorance in your OPINION, If you want to get down to the nitty-gritty, thats all these forums are , is opinions. And we all know that opinions are like assholes..........everbody has got one. However if your opinion is ludicrous, uninformed,naive,stupid,lame,dumb and idiotic in my opinion......im gonna call you on it :)

And there is always this too:
Originally posted by Girl_Monster
ps. yes this was a joke. I so don't even care about FLG politics anymore. :)

Yet you are still posting in the political playpen :confused::rolleyes:

[SpecOps]

Wow...first thread I read from front to back and I am absolutely rolling. Thanks for the props for serving and thanks to those that have served with me.

Amazing that we live in a country that allows us the freedom to speak so freely.

That alone is worth fighting for.

[hezimoe]

Ghandi was for peace as long as it was hindu's that were the benefactors of his peace movement. He had some folks fooled! Like the entire world!!