is gay marriage ok?

[Ash]

yes adam and eve not adam and steve :rolleyes:

are you ok with the gay marriage?

im ok with gay people as long as they dont FLAME in public*

do whatever you want in your own home.






*on the same standing as seeing straight people making out in public is gross as well. gay + makeout = gross +1 though :P

[termdec]

Screw sanctity of marriage. If a relationship works the same way as a marriage, it should be viewed in the same way by the government. If the church doesn't like it, too bad, we have the seperation of church and state for a reason.

[DeadLamb]

yeah zero problem with it being who ever someone else marries is NONE of my biz unless it's me getting hitched to who or whatever I want. Someone else can marry 5 wives or a yak or a gay yak for all I care, none of my biz..

They (gov) should have passed a civil union law on the federal level that was iron clad and 100% equal to marriage with out CALLING in marriage and this mess would not have happened. Sep they ducked the issue and now it will get messy and gay rights will pass in some state sooner or later..

Guy one marries some chick. Only he works and pays taxes.. They pump out 4 kids that drain the system but they get the rights of being a couple. I don't mean just the tax break I mean the whole sick bed vists for family only, transfer of wealth and all that other stuff that goes with being married..

Another couple happens to be two bull dikes, they have been together for twice as long as the first couple, no kids, both work and one still can't even sign stuff for the other? Can't even be listed as next of kin? It's just BS..
Being again, it's none of my biz who someone else couples up with.

[Poncho]

Originally posted by termdec
If the church doesn't like it, too bad, we have the seperation of church and state for a reason.

No such thing as seperation of church and state. Show me where it says that in the constitution. The reality is that marriage is a religious term. Personally, I could give a fuck who marries who, though I think that the advocates for "gay marriage" made a HUGH mistake fighting for what they want using the term marriage. They need to stick to the term civil union and I doubt that it would piss as many people off as it does. Also, you have to understand that the MAJORITY of voters do not want this yet.

[atsui]

My opinion on this should be so obvious now I shouldn't need to vote. But I will on principle.

[Sex Fruit]

Marriage is a religious idea thats is described in the bible as a union between a man and a woman.

I say Civil unions yes, I believe if two people are partners in life they should be able to be on each others insurance, be subject to community property, palimony, child support all that good stuff.

I do not however think that they should be able to be married in a church in a religious ceremony.

[honestplayer]

i must be gettin delirious cause i agree with poncho on this one? :)

[Poncho]

Originally posted by honestplayer
i must be gettin delirious cause i agree with poncho on this one? :)

Damn... let me rephrase my opinion then.

Goddamn, devil worshiping fags have no business getting married. In fact...they should all be shot in the street, rather then corrupt and taint the minds of the rightous, god fearing folk. And get rid of the libs while you are at it. Kill them..... kill them all I say.

:D Better?? LOL

[Qwertys]

most of the rednecks and hillbillys out there are the thing, they dont believe in seperation of church and state. and since this is a country ruled by majorities, thats how its going to stay.
Sure I believe marriage is between a man and a women, but thats my BELIEF. its like saying a black man can't marry a white women. back in the day that was a BELIEF. its not the states job to base any laws on BELIEF, its FACT and Results that matter.
What will happen if gays are allowed a civil union? will god come down and destroy the world? will the economy collapse? will russia nuke is? WHAT I N THE HELL ARE THE ADVERSE EFFECTS?

If Donnie and Poncho want to get married or "Civil Union" Who the fuck am I to disallow the same rights that other couples get?

[Poncho]

Originally posted by Qwertys
most of the rednecks and hillbillys out there are the thing, they dont believe in seperation of church and state. and since this is a country ruled by majorities, thats how its going to stay.

I'm not a hillbilly, redneck, nor am I religious.....yet I also don't agree with seperation of church and state. Bottom line...this country was founded on religious ideals. Deal with it..... There is NOTHING in the constitution that demands that there be any seperation. Jefferson mentioned in a few of his letters that he thought it to be a good idea...that's where the myth comes from. People need to get off this bandwagon. :rolleyes:

[Qwertys]

why do you think i called it BELIEF? its not a fact, and it doesn't apply like a fact. the USA was also founded on the idea of freedom from religious prosecution, if that means seperation from church and state, so be it. I dont care either way it goes as long as the disease of San Fransisco stops...

[Repairman Jack]

Originally posted by termdec
Screw sanctity of marriage. If a relationship works the same way as a marriage, it should be viewed in the same way by the government. If the church doesn't like it, too bad, we have the seperation of church and state for a reason.

QFT

[Poncho]

Originally posted by Repairman Jack
QFT

it's not truth.... because....wait for it..... wait.... THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS SEPERATION OF CHURCH AND STATE!!!!! Get over it. :D

[Repairman Jack]

I LOVE ignore! I don't even know what he wrote, and I don't care. :D

[Defiant One]

Originally posted by Repairman Jack
I LOVE ignore! I don't even know what he wrote, and I don't care. :D
Toss in another QFMFT!!!

[termdec]

Originally posted by Poncho
it's not truth.... because....wait for it..... wait.... THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS SEPERATION OF CHURCH AND STATE!!!!! Get over it. :D

Er... the concept exists, regardless of whether it's in the constitution. What about that whole "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" thing? Saying that certain people can't do things because your church disagrees with it should not be a law. If a majority of the people disagree with it, regardless of the church, that's another story. I still see it as an issue of civil liberty, and something that is probably going to be embarassing to the country in 100 years.

[Repairman Jack]

Originally posted by termdec
Er... the concept exists, regardless of whether it's in the constitution. What about that whole "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" thing? Saying that certain people can't do things because your church disagrees with it should not be a law. If a majority of the people disagree with it, regardless of the church, that's another story. I still see it as an issue of civil liberty, and something that is probably going to be embarassing to the country in 100 years.

It's embarassing to the country now...

[Bunnyslayer]

Originally posted by Qwertys
If Donnie and Poncho want to get married or "Civil Union" Who the fuck am I to disallow the same rights that other couples get?

Hey Donnie can't marry Poncho, she's mine!!!!!!! ! !! !

[JerseyGirl]

Originally posted by termdec
Saying that certain people can't do things because your church disagrees with it...

Tell my pharmacist this - he would not fill my prescription for the pill. Can you fucking believe this?! I have to wait until tomorrow when the heathen pharmacist comes back. He told me that he renewed his faith as a Catholic because of Pope John Paul II dying so birth control is against his faith. He picks this week to be a good fucking Catholic?! :rolleyes: I heard about this on the news but NEVER thought it would happen to me in NJ.

Oh - and I could care less if gays marry or have civil unions. :D

[Bullfrog]

Originally posted by JerseyGirl
Tell my pharmacist this - he would not fill my prescription for the pill. Can you fucking believe this?! I have to wait until tomorrow when the heathen pharmacist comes back. He told me that he renewed his faith as a Catholic because of Pope John Paul II dying so birth control is against his faith. He picks this week to be a good fucking Catholic?! :rolleyes: I heard about this on the news but NEVER thought it would happen to me in NJ.

Oh - and I could care less if gays marry or have civil unions. :D

From someone who is Roman Catholic I am pretty shocked that you're pharmacist would actually do that. I feel I should be apologizing for jerks like that under the name of being a Catholic.

[PsychoSilva]

i dont care, no kind of gayism should happen....

i dont care

[Bunnyslayer]

Originally posted by PsychoSilva
i dont care, no kind of gayism should happen....

i dont care

Better watch out, I heard it's airborne now.:rolleyes:

[Anasazi]

Originally posted by JerseyGirl
Tell my pharmacist this - he would not fill my prescription for the pill. Can you fucking believe this?! I have to wait until tomorrow when the heathen pharmacist comes back. He told me that he renewed his faith as a Catholic because of Pope John Paul II dying so birth control is against his faith.



Well good for him. Did you tell him that it's not against your faith.


I'd find that fuckers car and torch it saying that smog is against my faith.


I can't stand anything more than some born again religious nut that needs to push his faith.



Except for the morons that can't drive in this country. (99.999999999%) I hate them more.

[Moddy]

Originally posted by Anasazi
Well good for him. Did you tell him that it's not against your faith.


I'd find that fuckers car and torch it saying that smog is against my faith.


I can't stand anything more than some born again religious nut that needs to push his faith.



Except for the morons that can't drive in this country. (99.999999999%) I hate them more.

.....and fast food servers that can't speak fucking engrish......oooh oooh.....and LIQUOR STORE OWNERS THAT CAN'T SPEAK ENGRISH!

[Anasazi]

Originally posted by The Modfather
.....and fast food servers that can't speak fucking engrish......oooh oooh.....and LIQUOR STORE OWNERS THAT CAN'T SPEAK ENGRISH!





Don't forget the French.

[fishmonger]

Originally posted by Repairman Jack
It's embarassing to the country now...

I'm sorry, but contrary to the belief on the board, "the country" is not California and the Northeastern Seaboard.

[Poncho]

Originally posted by termdec
If a majority of the people disagree with it, regardless of the church, that's another story.

The reality is that a majority of americans don't believe in gay "marriage." This is why we have gay marriage laws shot down REPEATEDLY.

Originally posted by termdec
Saying that certain people can't do things because your church disagrees with it should not be a law.

This has nothing to do with religion....so far as the laws are concerned. People get their belief structure from religion, everybody. Whether or not you go to church, believe in god, etc..... you get your ideas of right and wrong, for the most part, from a religious base. People vote on those ideals that, for the most part, were gained from religion. That's why there are, or are not, laws regarding gay MARRIAGE. Call it civil unions and I doubt the VOTERS would have as hard a time as they do.

[Moddy]

Originally posted by fishmonger
I'm sorry, but contrary to the belief on the board, "the country" is not California and the Northeastern Seaboard.

haha lies!!!!

[termdec]

Originally posted by fishmonger
I'm sorry, but contrary to the belief on the board, "the country" is not California and the Northeastern Seaboard.

http://img228.echo.cx/img228/6092/newmap7sh.jpg

:toast:

[Ash]

http://www.t-shirthumor.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=redp&Category_Code=poli

i just bought this shirt a few days ago :P

[JerseyGirl]

Originally posted by Anasazi
Well good for him. Did you tell him that it's not against your faith.

I'd find that fuckers car and torch it saying that smog is against my faith.

I can't stand anything more than some born again religious nut that needs to push his faith.

Except for the morons that can't drive in this country. (99.999999999%) I hate them more.

:ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL:

I've got my "sinner" prescription now so all is good. The pharmacist that refused to fill my prescription has been removed.

[Gremlin]

Originally posted by JerseyGirl
:ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL:

I've got my "sinner" prescription now so all is good. The pharmacist that refused to fill my prescription has been removed.

So did you complain or did other people complain???

[Poncho]

Originally posted by termdec
http://img228.echo.cx/img228/6092/newmap7sh.jpg

:toast:

Not quite sure which side would be worse.... Canadian or Bible thumpers..... fuck, I'll just go hide under a rock. Would rather be there. :D

Oh and Ash..... you are advertising that the majority of states in this country are republican and that libs are the minority..... Thanks for getting that message out man. We really appreciate it. :D

[JerseyGirl]

Originally posted by Gremlin
So did you complain or did other people complain???

I complained. I called the corporate office and told them that my prescription was not filled because of the pharmacist's religious beliefs and that I was going to take my business elsewhere. They in turn called the pharmacist and he told them the same thing. And from what I understand, he rattled off a list of other prescriptions that he would not fill either. Unfortunately, I wasn't told what they were.

I'm all for everyone having their own belief system but if this guy wants to continue to be a pharmacist, something has to change. He'd probably have less problems in a senior citizen facility.

[Ash]

Originally posted by Poncho
Not quite sure which side would be worse.... Canadian or Bible thumpers..... fuck, I'll just go hide under a rock. Would rather be there. :D

Oh and Ash..... you are advertising that the majority of states in this country are republican and that libs are the minority..... Thanks for getting that message out man. We really appreciate it. :D


canada is looking nice :P

nazis were the majority in germany as well for a time ;)

granted ashcroft left office but i was sure the book burning was gonna start in the next year :(

http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/Movies/03/23/volcano.movie.ap/

[Repairman Jack]

Originally posted by Ash
nazis were the majority in germany as well for a time ;)

Nice Analogy!

[fishmonger]

Originally posted by Repairman Jack
Nice Analogy!

Not really; it's an offensive anology with really no bearing on anything. For example, I could also say that Nazis are now the minority party in Germany. Would that be a valid comparison with the Democratic party in America? Or communists are now the minority in Russia. Or any number of equally worthless yet polarizing statements.

(I get the humor he was going for, and I appreciate it for the tongue-in-cheek comment it was; however, I'm going to make sure you recognize the fact that it is not a "Nice Analogy").

[Moddy]

Originally posted by fishmonger
Not really. :heart:

[fishmonger]

Originally posted by The Modfather
:heart:

:smooch:

[Repairman Jack]

Originally posted by fishmonger
Not really; it's an offensive anology with really no bearing on anything. For example, I could also say that Nazis are now the minority party in Germany. Would that be a valid comparison with the Democratic party in America? Or communists are now the minority in Russia. Or any number of equally worthless yet polarizing statements.

(I get the humor he was going for, and I appreciate it for the tongue-in-cheek comment it was; however, I'm going to make sure you recognize the fact that it is not a "Nice Analogy").

I'd expect you to find it offensive. It's still a good analogy. Religion has been a HUGE contributor to misery and death throughout history. It doesn't take much to get a religious majority up in arms and willing to infringe on the rights, even the lives of the minority - all in the name of god, of course. The Nazi persecution of the Jews was simply the reverse of that - a non-religious majority that hated a specific religion. The main difference - the Nazis weren't hiding behind god when they committed their atrocities.

[Ash]

Originally posted by Repairman Jack
I'd expect you to find it offensive. It's still a good analogy. Religion has been a HUGE contributor to misery and death throughout history. It doesn't take much to get a religious majority up in arms and willing to infringe on the rights, even the lives of the minority - all in the name of god, of course. The Nazi persecution of the Jews was simply the reverse of that - a non-religious majority that hated a specific religion. The main difference - the Nazis weren't hiding behind god when they committed their atrocities.

BINGO

witch burnings in new england? holy crusades on the dark ages are another example. the jihad is another example by the desert women beaters. every group has the potential to go off the deep end.

democrats going deep turns into comradship which i hate just as much as repulinazis going godly on us when we dont want it.

i for one want a seperation of church and state but i dont think i will ever see it within my lifetime.

the church is a form of societal control left over from the dark ages(holy roman empire) that needs to stay out of the modern world and our growth and acceptance of humanity. if you read the illiad(sp?) they are full of homo references and i believe its been around since animals crawled out of the dinosaur footprints. now if i can just find my nikes and get to my cool-aid summer camp.

:eek:

[DeadLamb]

Originally posted by Ash
the church is a form of societal control left over from

sounds like someone needs build the bridge to a better life and that someone is Ash..
http://www.scientology.org/en_US/religion/bridge/index.html

http://www.scientology.org/
--cut---
The fastest growing religious movement on earth, Scientology has become a firmly established and active force for positive change in the world in less than half a century.
--paste--

See!!?!! a positive change in the world.. that what's it all about you HAHAHAAHAH!!! STUPID MAN-ANIMAL!!! Now go mine my gold and I better not see you near those jet fighter simulators!! HAHAHAHA! Stupid humans.
http://www.fusionlangaming.net/0405/battlefield_earth_john_travolta-1.jpg

[Ash]

i almost included johns cult as well but just felt too lazy :P

[fishmonger]

Originally posted by Repairman Jack
I'd expect you to find it offensive. It's still a good analogy.

No, it's not.

Originally posted by Repairman Jack
Religion has been a HUGE contributor to misery and death throughout history. It doesn't take much to get a religious majority up in arms and willing to infringe on the rights, even the lives of the minority - all in the name of god, of course. The Nazi persecution of the Jews was simply the reverse of that - a non-religious majority that hated a specific religion. The main difference - the Nazis weren't hiding behind god when they committed their atrocities.

This has to be about the worst deconstruction I've ever read. You claim that "Republicans in America = Nazis in Germany", then you set about trying to rationalize that. First you establish that "Religion = bad". Then you move on to claim that "Republicans = Religious = Bad". Then you go on with "Nazis = Not Religious = Bad." Then you claim that since "Republicans = Religious and Nazis = Not Religious, and both are Bad, then Republicans = Nazis". What a load of shit.

What you're doing here is stretching a very thin analogy that fits your intellectually superior whim, and it's bullshit. I could make the EXACT SAME thing stick with Democrats and Nazis in Germany, Communists in Russia, Communists in Cuba, any group you want.

[Ash]

Originally posted by fishmonger
I could make the EXACT SAME thing stick with Democrats and Nazis in Germany, Communists in Russia, Communists in Cuba, any group you want. [/B]

true

my own opinion is that the christian/right/repubs are taking us in that direction. any one group can tip the scales. im not saying any one group is better than the rest. we need balance. but again in my opinion with the bush regieme it feels we are sliding to book burnings again.
fags = wmd ;)

example of right side weirdness...
banning of imax films :eek:
http://www.news14charlotte.com/content/top_stories/default.asp?ArID=91371


example of left side weirdness...
cookie monster being made into sometimes monster:rolleyes:
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/jonahgoldberg/jg20050422.shtml

[Repairman Jack]

Originally posted by fishmonger
No, it's not.



This has to be about the worst deconstruction I've ever read. You claim that "Republicans in America = Nazis in Germany", then you set about trying to rationalize that. First you establish that "Religion = bad". Then you move on to claim that "Republicans = Religious = Bad". Then you go on with "Nazis = Not Religious = Bad." Then you claim that since "Republicans = Religious and Nazis = Not Religious, and both are Bad, then Republicans = Nazis". What a load of shit.

What you're doing here is stretching a very thin analogy that fits your intellectually superior whim, and it's bullshit. I could make the EXACT SAME thing stick with Democrats and Nazis in Germany, Communists in Russia, Communists in Cuba, any group you want.


You're the one spouting the bullshit. Not ONCE, NEVER did I mention Republicans - anywhere in my post. You drew that conclusion on your own.

[fishmonger]

Originally posted by Repairman Jack
You're the one spouting the bullshit. Not ONCE, NEVER did I mention Republicans - anywhere in my post. You drew that conclusion on your own.

Yeah, that's not obvious or anything. So what you're going to say you mean now is that religious majority are the Nazis?

EVEN IF that's what you really mean, your previous exposition is still shit for the same reasons. You're equating religion to bad things happening, and then stretching that to relate to Nazis. Thing is, Nazis weren't religious by your own admission - Hitler just hated Jews.

Oh, I see now ... religious people hate Jews! It's clear to me now. I rescind my objection. :rolleyes:

Or is it really that bad things happening that you don't agree with = Nazis in all cases?

[Repairman Jack]

Originally posted by fishmonger
Yeah, that's not obvious or anything. So what you're going to say you mean now is that religious majority are the Nazis?

EVEN IF that's what you really mean, your previous exposition is still shit for the same reasons. You're equating religion to bad things happening, and then stretching that to relate to Nazis. Thing is, Nazis weren't religious by your own admission - Hitler just hated Jews.

Oh, I see now ... religious people hate Jews! It's clear to me now. I rescind my objection. :rolleyes:

Or is it really that bad things happening that you don't agree with = Nazis in all cases?

Wow, you're a text book example of how to twist anything the way you want it. Religion really gets your nipples in a pinch, huh?. I can feel the religious hate flowing. You're so full of "christian" responses.

Just for the record, the analogy was:

Nazis = Majority in Germany that did bad things
Various religions throughout history = Majority that did bad things
Religious majority in the US = A group with the potential to do bad things

It was nothing more than that, no matter how you try to twist it and say otherwise.

History repeats itself. Even good people with good intentions get swept up in the mob frenzy and do bad things. It's happened in this country in the past and it can happen again.

[atsui]

Originally posted by Ash
example of right side weirdness...
banning of imax films :eek:
http://www.news14charlotte.com/content/top_stories/default.asp?ArID=91371
Stupid fucking morons. They really need to learns something about a subject before assuming they understand it. If they knew anything about evolution they'd know it does not attempt to disprove god, AND it is a proven scientific fact, which god is not. Fuck. Evolution states that species evolved over millions of years. Darwin never said we evolved from apes, he simply said we share a common ancester. And do people really still believe "Adam and Eve" looked like we do today? Or that Jesus was blonde? How do Christians explain sickle cell, which is a genetic mutation? Or people who have 6 fingers? Or Downs Syndrome? Or the fact that horses legs have gotten longer over the centuries because selection changed in that direction?

Mutation is a form of evolution. Evolution is a change in the frequency of specific traits from one generation to the next. It never says god didn't create us, that's the Big Bang theory. Damn I hate people that insist on being blind.

It only proves their ignorance.

Main Entry: ig·no·rant
Pronunciation: 'ig-n(&-)r&nt
Function: adjective
A : destitute of knowledge or education; also : lacking knowledge or comprehension of the thing specified
B : resulting from or showing lack of knowledge or intelligence

[Ash]

Originally posted by Repairman Jack
Religion really gets your nipples in a pinch, huh?.


It was nothing more than that, no matter how you try to twist it and say otherwise.



[jerry maguire zellwegger love eyes]
you had me at nipple pinching
[/jerry maguire zellwegger love eyes]

:P

[atsui]

Originally posted by fishmonger
So what you're going to say you mean now is that religious majority are the Nazis?
Let's see.

1. They'd probably love it if all gays died (I use probably because it is ridiculous to judge all people by the group they associate with- even though Christians do that to gays or fag-hags such as myself every day).
2. They'd probably love it if all satanists, atheists, and wiccans died.
3. They think they are "better" than above mentioned groups of people.
4. Christian religions have a repeated history of killing people who opposed them or simply chose not to agree with their beliefs.
5. Christian religions have used the threat of hell and to extort money and posessions and loyalty from their own members since the earliest days of Christianity.
6. Chrisitans spout about wanting their religious freedom, such as the right to pray in school, yet have they ever granted us atheists the right to our own religious freedom? By allowing us to choose to not have a religion? No, because it is conveniently written into their religious material to not accept "no" as an answer and to constantly throw religious materials in our faces, to hound us for not going to church, and to tell us how horrible we are for our lack of belief.

Horrible things have been done in the name of god and it's a damn shame. Religious may not equal Nazi, but there is a lot of history showing Chrisitan Religions are still pretty fucking horrible.



please note: my mother is Catholic and my father is Seventh Day Adventist and neither of them cares whether I take a girl or a guy home for Thanksgiving dinner. I don't hate the every day religious people. It's the zealots who continue to hurt innocent people that I can't stand. :heart:

[Chronoglass]

a marriage is just a joining of two things... however else you want to mutate the definition by adding straight people or a plug and a jack (or christ two jacks with enough duct tape)

restrictions on a set of beliefs are always 100% wrong
there is no getting around that

believe the world is flat
(limit sailing rights)
believe that people want to live safely
(require other people to wear seatbelts/helmets)
believe that people can't handle weapons
(restrict access to everyone except criminals to said weapons)

but it all comes down to plain and simple stupidity.. and if you believe otherwise.. you fall in the catagory of belief

[DeadLamb]

Yeeeeeee ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Go get them nascar driving shotgun shooting Jesus!
http://www.fusionlangaming.net/0405/shotgunJesus.jpg

[Repairman Jack]

Originally posted by DeadLamb
Yeeeeeee ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Go get them nascar driving shotgun shooting Jesus!
http://www.fusionlangaming.net/0405/shotgunJesus.jpg

:ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL:

Thanks Lamb, I needed a new avatar. :D

[Qwertys]

Originally posted by Girl_Monster
Let's see.

1. They'd probably love it if all gays died (I use probably because it is ridiculous to judge all people by the group they associate with- even though Christians do that to gays or fag-hags such as myself every day).
2. They'd probably love it if all satanists, atheists, and wiccans died.
3. They think they are "better" than above mentioned groups of people.
4. Christian religions have a repeated history of killing people who opposed them or simply chose not to agree with their beliefs.
5. Christian religions have used the threat of hell and to extort money and posessions and loyalty from their own members since the earliest days of Christianity.
6. Chrisitans spout about wanting their religious freedom, such as the right to pray in school, yet have they ever granted us atheists the right to our own religious freedom? By allowing us to choose to not have a religion? No, because it is conveniently written into their religious material to not accept "no" as an answer and to constantly throw religious materials in our faces, to hound us for not going to church, and to tell us how horrible we are for our lack of belief.

Horrible things have been done in the name of god and it's a damn shame. Religious may not equal Nazi, but there is a lot of history showing Chrisitan Religions are still pretty fucking horrible.



please note: my mother is Catholic and my father is Seventh Day Adventist and neither of them cares whether I take a girl or a guy home for Thanksgiving dinner. I don't hate the every day religious people. It's the zealots who continue to hurt innocent people that I can't stand. :heart:

I love ya GM. Strait to the point. can't blame it all on religous Zealots, but a lot of things can be traced back to it. Hell all the shit going on in Iraq right now can be blamed by it.

[Ash]

Originally posted by Repairman Jack
:ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL:

Thanks Lamb, I needed a new avatar. :D

:mad:

you beat me to it

:P

[Swagger]

Originally posted by Girl_Monster
Let's see.

1. They'd probably love it if all gays died (I use probably because it is ridiculous to judge all people by the group they associate with- even though Christians do that to gays or fag-hags such as myself every day).
2. They'd probably love it if all satanists, atheists, and wiccans died.
3. They think they are "better" than above mentioned groups of people.
4. Christian religions have a repeated history of killing people who opposed them or simply chose not to agree with their beliefs.
5. Christian religions have used the threat of hell and to extort money and posessions and loyalty from their own members since the earliest days of Christianity.
6. Chrisitans spout about wanting their religious freedom, such as the right to pray in school, yet have they ever granted us atheists the right to our own religious freedom? By allowing us to choose to not have a religion? No, because it is conveniently written into their religious material to not accept "no" as an answer and to constantly throw religious materials in our faces, to hound us for not going to church, and to tell us how horrible we are for our lack of belief.

Horrible things have been done in the name of god and it's a damn shame. Religious may not equal Nazi, but there is a lot of history showing Chrisitan Religions are still pretty fucking horrible.


I am offended because blah blah blah.....sorry I just had sound like you for a second LOL.

But thats a pretty uncreative view.

1: I don't think they would because they need them to "convert" to prove it can bedone and show how great the "lords love" is....sounds pretty gay to me LOL
2: No because again....less people to convert or point fingers at.
3:They also have a history of "helping" or "loving" them anyways.....the results might be bad...but the intentions are good..just ask our Engine friends...but not the one's with the blankets LOL.
4: Well better in the sense of they are "holier"
5: Well sure.......I mean....who wants to go to hell? Other than Marv (He was such a badass)
6: I've never met a real Chrisitan that's ministered that wasent a minister. I could name a few cults that push material and call themselves Chrisitan's......but Im not gonna get into that LOL

But back to the main subject..........Guy's kissing guys is grotty to watch...ugly girls kissing girls is grotty to watch.....hell guy's kissing girl's is kinda grotty to watch.........BUT!.....hot girl's kissing eachother is a beautiful thing. So since that last two are at least bearable....only men and women can marry and beautiful women can marry eachother.........BUT!....Only beautiful ladies can exchange affection in public places.

Now that we have that settled :D

[Chronoglass]

Originally posted by Swagger

But back to the main subject..........Guy's kissing guys is grotty to watch...ugly girls kissing girls is grotty to watch.....hell guy's kissing girl's is kinda grotty to watch.........BUT!.....hot girl's kissing eachother is a beautiful thing. So since that last two are at least bearable....only men and women can marry and beautiful women can marry eachother.........BUT!....Only beautiful ladies can exchange affection in public places.

Now that we have that settled :D

ya got my vote

[JerseyGirl]

Ah, nevermind....he removed his post!!

Ninja Edit!!

[fishmonger]

I was drunk last night when I posted that, and somehow had enough sense to delete it. I don't remember exaclty what it said but I'm sure it included prodigious use of the word "fuck".

That said, this is my last post in this forum. I'm going to end up saying something and pissing off a whole family (probably including Dan, the one person I actually care if gets pissed at me), and it's just not worth it.

Before I go however, I'm going to clear one thing up for Repairman Jack: I'm not religious. I haven't been to church in well over 15 years. Trying to pigeonhole me that way just proves that you're not looking at anything objectively.

Nazis were once the minority in Germany. Therefore I think that we need to keep the minority in America down, because if we don't then they could come to power and do all sorts of terrible things, like exterminating Jews or other atrocities that non-religious people have done throughout the millenia. Life is pretty good in America right now, so let's not let that evil minority fuck anything up.

And with that, I'm done.

[Ash]

Originally posted by fishmonger
I was drunk last night when I posted that, and somehow had enough sense to delete it. I don't remember exaclty what it said but I'm sure it included prodigious use of the word "fuck".

That said, this is my last post in this forum. I'm going to end up saying something and pissing off a whole family (probably including Dan, the one person I actually care if gets pissed at me), and it's just not worth it.

Before I go however, I'm going to clear one thing up for Repairman Jack: I'm not religious. I haven't been to church in well over 15 years. Trying to pigeonhole me that way just proves that you're not looking at anything objectively.

Nazis were once the minority in Germany. Therefore I think that we need to keep the minority in America down, because if we don't then they could come to power and do all sorts of terrible things, like exterminating Jews or other atrocities that non-religious people have done throughout the millenia. Life is pretty good in America right now, so let's not let that evil minority fuck anything up.

And with that, I'm done.

minority or majority ?

[Chronoglass]

Originally posted by Ash
minority or majority ?

your not in the minority here :confused:

[Repairman Jack]

Originally posted by fishmonger
I was drunk last night when I posted that, and somehow had enough sense to delete it. I don't remember exaclty what it said but I'm sure it included prodigious use of the word "fuck".

That said, this is my last post in this forum. I'm going to end up saying something and pissing off a whole family (probably including Dan, the one person I actually care if gets pissed at me), and it's just not worth it.

Before I go however, I'm going to clear one thing up for Repairman Jack: I'm not religious. I haven't been to church in well over 15 years. Trying to pigeonhole me that way just proves that you're not looking at anything objectively.

Nazis were once the minority in Germany. Therefore I think that we need to keep the minority in America down, because if we don't then they could come to power and do all sorts of terrible things, like exterminating Jews or other atrocities that non-religious people have done throughout the millenia. Life is pretty good in America right now, so let's not let that evil minority fuck anything up.

And with that, I'm done.

:ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL:

No you pigeonholed yourself when you became offended and rose to religion's defense with a profanity laced, acidic rant. No offense intended, but if your feelings are that strong, maybe you should go back to church. However, I'll be the 1st to acknowledge that that's a personal decision on your part and it's certainly none of my business whether you go to church or not. :heart:

You've also tried to pigeonhole me as a democrat, yet I've been a registered, voting republican for the past 28 years. I have some views that are ultra conservative, and others that are very liberal. I'm that hated "middle of the road" republican, but I can live with the hate. :)

As for the rest of it, meh, neither of us is ever going to change the others view point or values, and I really have no desire to change yours. Peace...

[FreedomFGHTR]

whoa!!!