Refugee Survival Kit

[honestplayer]

http://www.refugee.net/kit.html

apparently, its still not available?
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[cove]

you forgot the universal translator

http://refugee.net/translator.html

[Anasazi]

:nut: :hittard:

[Vandalous]

Damn, Anasazi. Don't you ever sleep? I'm at work so I'm just burning some idle time. What's your excuse?

[Anasazi]

I'm at work too. Been here for an hour.

[Vandalous]

Oh. Since my old "What dew I dew?" thread got nuked along with Lantro, what do you do and where do you do it? Jobwise, of course. :tard:

[Anasazi]

I work in Stockton (Yeah it's a long drive) for Sprint at their main Northen California Switch Site.
Basically my job could be summarized quick and easy with just a word "Troubleshooter", but fo the most part I turnup, activate, fix, maintain, troubleshoot, and play with everything from a DS0 to an OC192.
Our Site covers most of the Western part of the U.S. and we also have to deal with International countries all the time.

I hate trying to talk to people in Tokyo, Korea, the Philippines, etc...

[Anasazi]

What about you?

[Vandalous]

Har! One of my primary circuit vendors is Sprint. My NASM is Don Lowe. Perhaps you've worked with him? He took a few of us on a tour of the Oroville switch, which was pretty cool. He said it's not nearly as impressive as the Stockton site though.

I'm the manager of the night crew in the Network Operations Center for a major retailer. Our NOC is in Rocklin and I have a team of seven engineers responsible for 1st, 2nd, and sometimes 3rd level support of various systems: UNIX, network, Mainframes, Tandem, DMZ, etc. The store network alone has over 3000 nodes worldwide and adding the corporate environment increases that number drastically.

I used to be one of the engineers til they decided to remove me before I did further damage and placed me in management. :D

[Anasazi]

Don Lowe is a cool guy.

I still haven't seen the Oroville switch. :(

Cool!


I've discovered that the easiest way to get promoted in any business is to screw something up. Company's don't fire people now a days, they promote them out of their position. :D

[Vandalous]

Don can talk a lot but he is the most technically-sound telco person I've ever met. He knows PSN2 switches and the like as if he was born as one of them. It's fun having him on the phone and listening to him school some SMC or FRTM scrub in Atlanta who swears that they can loop a smartjack, even though it has no power.

Hooray for jargon and alienating the rest of the FLG readership. :)

[Anasazi]

Oh GOD! I hate dealing with those people!

Everytime I get a call from them the first thing they say is "Yeah I'm in the 3/1 dccs and I can't see past that cross connect. Can you put up a patch for me?".
Most of the time they're not even in the right dccs port which means they're facing the wrong way! ARRRRRGGGGHHHHH.

[Vandalous]

Are you going to be at the FLG event? I'm planning on going and I'd like to meet ya. We can trade SDSC horror stories. avast

[Anasazi]

Yeah I'll be there.


*shudder* SDSC *shudder* I think I've only met one competent person with the SDSC in my carreer.
Believe me...I have some stories for ya. :D

[codemachine]

*drool* I want one of them OC192's in my house. Not that I'd ever be able to saturate it, I just want one. :-D

Seems as though I finally found some people that know some shit about networks, real networks. Not this "dsl modem and a 4-port switch" BS. That's not a network, that's a glorified node. :hittard:

Some day I'll know as much as you guys seem to. Could be all double speak for all I know. Besides, I'm more of a software guy. I write the stuff that fills those pipes with usefull stuff like pr0n and email. :D

[Anasazi]

Sure you can have one.

Just get a Cisco 12012 Gigabit switch and a lot of money. :D


We can teach you young grasshopper. :hittard:

[Vandalous]

Har! They fell for our random letters, Anasazi! Mwahaha! How we can litter his mind with nonsense like T-Berd tests, All-ones, Quasi, ISDN Q931, and other BS.

Yay!

j/k Codemachine. Home networks are cute and all but you haven't lived until you've faced an OC-48 fiber cut that severed both links into a region and you have to build and configure an ATM router and coordinate a ckt provisioning with another provider in an hour. Meanwhile, the entire global network of stores is unable to process credit and your business is literally losing millions of dollars every minute. That's some interesting pressure.

Remember the backhoe fiber cut in Marysville a couple years ago, Anasazi? That was ugly.

For the rest of you, remember to never rent a backhoe and "test it out" near the railroad tracks. Telco likes to run their backbones along railroad tracks and digging near there can cause a bit of an outage. Try all of Sacramento, for example. The dude dig several holes and managed to kill the SONET ring and its' redundancy. Nice, eh?

I saw the legal action brought against the guy. I think the cost was like $5 mil per minute the ring was down. Yuck.

[Anasazi]

B8ZS, D4, AMI, ESF, SF, FEBE, BPV's, etc...

Oh yeah I do. When the guy testing out the Back Hoe found out what he pulled up he ditched the scene and left the back hoe there still holding the fiber. LOL
I think I can get pictures of it.

Hold on. I have one hell of an OC48 issue to post. You'll like the pics. :D

[Beebo]

PM, its your friend :).

:hittard:

[Anasazi]

There's a PM here?
:hittard:

lol

[Vandalous]

Working for a massive corporation spoils me. We have 6 Sun E15K domain servers and a huge number of SunFire boxes, E10Ks, Cisco 6500 switches everywhere, and most of us have a couple of Cisco devices under our desks, whether it's an AS5300, 1751, 4506, or even a 6509 that's being used as a table. It's funny stuff.

I was here when we made the transition from VSAT satellite to Frame-Relay so I've seen some horror stories.

[Vandalous]

PM, its your friend :).

:hittard:

Intruder! How dare you violate our little network-geek dominion! Back to the nether with ye!

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[codemachine]

hey hey hey, there's no ID10T error here fellas. I know a few keywords and acronyms. I'm not completely clueless, just mostly clueless :tard:

I've worked with CSU/DSU's, T1's, and that kind of lower end stuff. I've "seen" huge fiber installations. I know the theory and idea. I'm just missing the temrinology and experience. Hopefully I can talk my employers into letting me learn some of this stuff since it kinda sorta, but not really relates to my job.

You guys ever worked with a SAN? I helped set one up once. Nothing quite like logging in as root, doing a df, and seeing 20+ Terabytes staring back at ya. :cool:

[Beebo]

There's a PM here?
:hittard:

lol

Don't confuse me boy lol.

Or I'll get my ass handed to me in RS again :cheeze:

[Anasazi]

I was here when we made the transition from VSAT satellite to Frame-Relay so I've seen some horror stories.

Not like this.
Fear the working OC48 mess!



http://home.comcast.net/~dmaeller/temp/OC48_Fullview.JPG
http://home.comcast.net/~dmaeller/temp/OC48_Closeup.JPG

[Vandalous]

codemachine,

We've got a massive SAN where I work. I don't recall what the current capacity is since it's been a while since I poked in there but it was staggering when the numbers were coming back as Petabytes, rather than Terabytes.

Talk about Data Warehouse and Data Mining. Sheesh!

[Anasazi]

There's a PM here?
:hittard:

lol

Don't confuse me boy lol.

Or I'll get my ass handed to me in RS again :cheeze:

Fixed! :D

[Vandalous]

That's awsome! I &lt;/3 working with cabling messes. When I get to work tonight, I'll try to remember to post the clean up work we did in Hong Kong. Data center cable cleanup pwnz all.

[Anasazi]

Those are all live with traffic that some dumbass I know did.
It did look nice and neat until this individual touched. :D



Now he has to clean it up. :D

[Beebo]

Don't make me IN-Active monkey you :D .

Er, i mean.. I'm Rebinding my controls!!!

[Vandalous]

Those are all live with traffic that some dumbass I know did.
It did look nice and neat until this individual touched. :D



Now he has to clean it up. :D

Beautiful. I love making engineers that don't clean up after themselves come in and redo everything according to standards that we created and they agreed to adhere to.

[Sitting_Duck]

I've discovered that the easiest way to get promoted in any business is to screw something up. Company's don't fire people now a days, they promote them out of their position. :D
Hah! That describes government jobs perfectly. Of course the alternate side of that is that when the layoffs come - which seems to be endless at Sprint - past screwups tend to make you a great target.

[Anasazi]

Not for certain people. :(

[Beebo]

At least you have jobs :(.

[Sitting_Duck]

At least you have jobs :(.Yeah, until mine gets pushed to India. Or IBM. Or EDS. Anything to save a $.

[Anasazi]

You're young.
Have fun while you're young.

[Anasazi]

At least you have jobs :(.Yeah, until mine gets pushed to India. Or IBM. Or EDS. Anything to save a $.

Yeah no kidding!
When I heard that I almost shit myself.

[Vandalous]

At least you have jobs :(.

Yup. And one that pays extremely well too. :P


/me ends the rubbing it in. Hey, you're still young. I was driving forklifts 5 years ago. It takes time and perserverence, not to mention a little luck.

[Anasazi]

not to mention a little luck.

Yeah no kidding there.

I worked at Taco Bell before I started working at Sprint.

[Gremlin]

Sitting duck where do you work at?

[atsui]

i can't even get a secretary job at sprint, even though i have "connections" through my mom, dad, uncle, and brother who all work there.

st00pid hiring freeze sticks me at a job i hate. *sigh*

[Anasazi]

Sitting duck where do you work at?

He's a Sprinter too.

[Sitting_Duck]

I was at Office Depot selling computers for fun and profit for 3 years. Well, at least for profit. Maybe - retails sales on commission sucks. Sprint was definitely a major improvement (coming up on 7 years now), but it took me a while to build up to where I am, and I still have SO far to go.

[Moddy]

i can't even get a secretary job at sprint, even though i have "connections" through my mom, dad, uncle, and brother who all work there.

st00pid hiring freeze sticks me at a job i hate. *sigh*

I understand that you work @ a call center currently? If you are interesteed, I can keep an eye open over here for yah - there are 4 different kinds of call centers - wait - 5:
1. Pre Pay Cellular
2. Telesales (they have quotas, but you get commission)
3. Customer Care
4. Financial Services (Sucky ass job - call people that are late on their bills)
5. WDTS - Probably the best "call center" job available - Wireless Data Tech Support - this is where I will try to get hired if my IT job goes away. It's a cool job for geeks :)

[Sitting_Duck]

Sitting duck where do you work at?Sorry, must have missed this one!

I work at Sprint, like most of my Clan. :D

[atsui]

i can't even get a secretary job at sprint, even though i have "connections" through my mom, dad, uncle, and brother who all work there.

st00pid hiring freeze sticks me at a job i hate. *sigh*

I understand that you work @ a call center currently? If you are interesteed, I can keep an eye open over here for yah - there are 4 different kinds of call centers - wait - 5:
1. Pre Pay Cellular
2. Telesales (they have quotas, but you get commission)
3. Customer Care
4. Financial Services (Sucky ass job - call people that are late on their bills)
5. WDTS - Probably the best "call center" job available - Wireless Data Tech Support - this is where I will try to get hired if my IT job goes away. It's a cool job for geeks :)
Oh yes please let me know! I can't post my reasons for hating my job, because they monitor our internet use... but I can go off for hours.

you are now my numero uno favorito persono. :)

[Gremlin]

[quote="Girl_Monster
you are now my numero uno favorito persono. :)[/quote]


What happened to Hoss ??? :P

[Bullfrog]

[quote="Girl_Monster
you are now my numero uno favorito persono. :)


What happened to Hoss ??? :P

I am guessing because he got a hair cut! :D

[Anasazi]

you are now my numero uno favorito persono. :)


What happened to Hoss ??? :P

I am guessing because he got a hair cut! :D


He cut the Mullet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????????!!!!!!!!!!!

[Bullfrog]

That's the rumor I have heard..... :oops:

[Moddy]

you are now my numero uno favorito persono. :)

w00t!! Okies, I'll keep you in the loop :)

[Anasazi]

That's the rumor I have heard..... :oops:

That boy...Shame on him.

[atsui]

NO! Hoss didn;t axe the mullet?! :(

Hoss is still on the list. Hoss is my favorite person in the whole wide world. Mod is my numero uno favorito persono :) Challenge my logic, I dare you!!

there's still 1 slot open: Mon chere l'anana
(rough translation.. the pinnapple i love).

[honestplayer]

i work as a communications director for unions. at least we get pension, insurance for our body, teeth, eyes, jeez like everything, gas cards, etc. and a stable contract for every 3 years. etc. even if they tried to fire me i would have like greivances and stuff which would make it close to impossible. plus that union salary (which are usually about 40-50% higher than the local avg.s).

so not complainin - but, when i had the choice between staying in the tech sector in san jose or moving to oakly for this position, it was easy.

so i feel for all ya cause its strikes me that some of these companies are crazy sending jobs to india, i got out right before the crash.

unions get a funny reaction from most ppl i talk to - but today the old stereotype of a fat gray haired white male blue collar worker has changed. most ppl around are young ivy or private school types like me and our internal operations etc. are probably more tech saavy and best practices than most companies the same size as us.

yea there are still alot of blue collar types around (mostly the construction trades) but if you need help at work let me know and i can always find a local union rep who might be able to help.

[Beebo]

I go to school.

And babysit one day a week for 10 dollars a hour.

Hey its cash :D.

Whether it be man whorin or babysitting.

Cash is cash, no matter how it is made :).

[codemachine]

I'm a h4x0r, or at least I will be as soon as graduate in Decemember. What's kewl is that I get a salary and benefits for it. :cheeze:

[Bullfrog]

Well, I am a Sr. Business Systems Analyst for AMD and I originally started off in Corporate IT as a Network Analyst. Did some really strange tasks for the first couple of years at the place. I am in a pretty cool job right now where I work directly for our Environmental, Health & Safety group. By doing the IT work strickly for this group and not subject to Corporate IT bullshit...I get to have a good time and actually accomplish things. Makes me a big fish in a small but important pond!

Now...if any of you guys have experience with semi-conductor design or have degrees in Electrical Engneering. Send me a PM so I can get a resume from you that I can get to our HR folks. Please do consider that the jobs would most likely be in Sunnyvale and let me tell you the commute is NOT fun. PM me if you are serious and I will see if I can help you out.

[Chromedragon]

Thought I would stop by say hi and Scare Mod.

I work as Tech Support for A large software company in Texas. I Support Database Backup and Recovery tools. Like the Network guys who were posting earlier they get the call when the shoppers cant connect to the server and buy there recipie books. I get the call when there are no items listed cause some ding dong DBA deleted it (yes i have had calls cause a Jr dba deleted the whole production database) I dont get the interesting ones that involve back hoes but i get some strange ones. :hittard:

NO offence to any DBA's in the crowed but i have seen my fair share of ID10T DBA's. My favorite was from IBM Global systems he was in charge of all the Backups etc. I asked him what was the backup strategy was for a particular server his response was "I run the Script"(think of the old Round Table comercials). he was usless

Anyway enough of my jabbering :)
Hope to see as many of you as possible at the Next FLG event.

[Chronoglass]

I'm a professional cartoonist that moonlights as a banker

yeah.. that's me

ha ha ha

[Chromedragon]

Hey i just noticed my title I am not a refugee I have been here for some time.

Please be kind mod.... :)

[Anasazi]

Now...if any of you guys have experience with semi-conductor design or have degrees in Electrical Engneering. Send me a PM so I can get a resume from you that I can get to our HR folks. Please do consider that the jobs would most likely be in Sunnyvale and let me tell you the commute is NOT fun. PM me if you are serious and I will see if I can help you out.

DAMN! I knew I should have been an Engineer!

[ChoMomma]

I make really good lasagna what can I get for that?

[cove]

I have a comfy chair

[atsui]

I cook (i make the greatest homemade chicken noodle soup) and clean (dishes anyone?) and do super cute things like grab ihateyoudavid's pepsi and say "oh look, it's open!" and proceed to drink half the can. you need a super cute smiley. :diab: this one works well.

i also walk by hot people really fast while staring at the ground. if someone hot talks to me i blush and give 1 word responses, then run away super fast. hence, if i meet you in person and talk to you, you are the ugly. :P no really, i've made a career out of being shy. :rolleyes:

in my free time i work at a call center for a bank providing customer service to people that can't count and blaim the bank for it. i also attend Sac City College, taking US History, Anthropology, and French. and i'm REALLY bitchy when I haven't had much sleep. i'm sure you're aware of this by now :oops:

[Bullfrog]

....and i'm REALLY bitchy when I haven't had much sleep. i'm sure you're aware of this by now :oops:

NNNOOOOO...no one has noticed.....well, maybe just a little bit. :rolleyes:

[Anasazi]

and i'm REALLY bitchy when I haven't had much sleep or when I'm awake, or when I'm asleep, or when I'm in a good mood, when I'm in a bad mood, on sunny days, cloudy days, rainy days, etc etc etc...

Fixed! :D







Love ya! (Don't hurt me)

[atsui]

I've been found out?! :eek:

hey yesterday I was running on roughly 9 hours of sleep... since Monday morning. and none of it was by my choice. so i had that irritation on top of the lack of sleep. :D but I got a full 7 last night so I am happy again.

[atsui]

and i'm REALLY bitchy when I haven't had much sleep or when I'm awake, or when I'm asleep, or when I'm in a good mood, when I'm in a bad mood, on sunny days, cloudy days, rainy days, etc etc etc...

Fixed! :D







Love ya! (Don't hurt me)
ooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..............























hater.

[Repairman Jack]

Har! One of my primary circuit vendors is Sprint. My NASM is Don Lowe. Perhaps you've worked with him? He took a few of us on a tour of the Oroville switch, which was pretty cool. He said it's not nearly as impressive as the Stockton site though.

I'm the manager of the night crew in the Network Operations Center for a major retailer. Our NOC is in Rocklin and I have a team of seven engineers responsible for 1st, 2nd, and sometimes 3rd level support of various systems: UNIX, network, Mainframes, Tandem, DMZ, etc. The store network alone has over 3000 nodes worldwide and adding the corporate environment increases that number drastically.

I used to be one of the engineers til they decided to remove me before I did further damage and placed me in management. :D

Wow! It's a small world. I'm Anasazi's dad and I also work for Sprint. Don Lowe has worked for me at two different Sprint locations and we've worked together for about 17 years. Don is a great guy and VERY technically inclined. Stockton is a monster site compared to Oroville. It's probably 4 - 5 times larger in terms of foot print and the amount of equipment. There are only a couple sites in our network that are larger than Stockton. You should have Don arrange a tour some time.