senate explanation please

[atsui]

why was Feinstein up for re-election but not Boxer? yes, I did try and look this up but I can't figure it out and I'm sure it's a simple matter. I know senators serve a certain term length, so loigcally they should all be up for re-election.

[DeadLamb]

they should all be up for re-election.

being each state has two, they spread them out so you don't get full house clear ever election..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate

"Senators serve for six-year terms that are staggered so elections are held for approximately one-third of the seats (a "class") every second year"

of course ya got to like the total BS of Dianne Feinstein who I @#$%@#$% HATE due to her ban of higher cap mags for handguns (as if 6 less in the mag is going to be the dif between the AM/PM clerk making it out of the story alive or not if I already have 10+1 in the gun ) standing up there saying "America is ready for change -- the old agenda will not do" as she is going on year 13 or so.. :barf:

yes you old hag, change is you, going on your 3rd term.... "change" yes, first word that pops into my mind.. blah..

[atsui]

being each state has two, they spread them out so you don't get full house clear ever election..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate

"Senators serve for six-year terms that are staggered so elections are held for approximately one-third of the seats (a "class") every second year"

of course ya got to like the total BS of Dianne Feinstein who I @#$%@#$% HATE due to her ban of higher cap mags for handguns (as if 6 less in the mag is going to be the dif between the AM/PM clerk making it out of the story alive or not if I already have 10+1 in the gun ) standing up there saying "America is ready for change -- the old agenda will not do" as she is going on year 13 or so.. :barf:

yes you old hag, change is you, going on your 3rd term.... "change" yes, first word that pops into my mind.. blah..
I find it so funny to, how the Dems are touting all this change. It's all BS politics anyway. But thatnks for the info! Wikipedia is the one place I didn't look.

[Ash]

I find it so funny to, how the Dems are touting all this change. It's all BS politics anyway. But thatnks for the info! Wikipedia is the one place I didn't look.


we have yet to see how many dems sleep with children but hey things can happen :paranoid:

we have yet to see how many dems strip our civil rights but hey thins can happen :paranoid:

etcc...

[Moddy]

we have yet to catch dems sleeping with children but hey things can happen :paranoid:


Fixt

[Poncho]

we have yet to see how many dems sleep with children but hey things can happen :paranoid:

we have yet to see how many dems strip our civil rights but hey thins can happen :paranoid:

etcc...


Wow... you act like the dems are infallible or something. Dude... get off of it. Yes, the crimes (provided they are found to be accurate) that SOME republicans have committed as of late are terrible, but you act like there has never been, nor will there ever be, a Democrat that commits a crime. Are you really that fucking dense? Have you forgotten about Kennedy? That fucker killed a person. Fucking Christ you make me sick.

[Bunnyslayer]

If the Dems started sleeping with young boys, then they too would understand that abortion is unnecessary :poke:

[honestplayer]

whats kinda interesting for me is looking at the families of politicians, from both sides, and seeing who bullsh*ts about family values, and who really lives it. i think the kennedy saga is hopefully over, they correctly are one sad case for the Democrats, although Bobby Kennedy can give me pause to think of what could have been. but, thats old hat because if i remember correctly, they didn't run on "family values" so its kind of kicking a dead horse.

but what about a politician or political leader (incl. those with access to the political parties from the christian coalition or evangelical church) who uses and touts "social conservativism" to gain power and use it against others for their own personal gain or bias'?

or the "rich kid" who avoided a draft or war who now touts their patriotism and waves the flags for war and calls others "traitors" who might have actually volunteered and didnt wait to get drafted and demonstrated their willingness to fight and die for the country and even lost limbs and won medals for their bravery?

these are people who opened up the debate and when they're exposed as liars or hypocrites, they deservedly should be burned at the stake.

i actually commend Poncho for taking up critical thinking classes. dood, thats cool because i actually am agreeing with some of the things you are saying lately. no one is infallible - thats very true. maybe hell is beginning to freeze over?

[honestplayer]

Burns, 71, did not plan any public appearances Thursday, his campaign said.

He also didn't say what he plans to do now, though he indicated he was looking forward to taking some time off. "I hope there is still a good-sized buck out there, because I am going hunting," he said.


heh, looks like Burns who lost to the Dem guy in Montana got the better side of that deal even in losing. LOLrz, wonder if he "sees" Tester's face on the buck before letting off his shot :ROFL:

this is probably one of the classiest concession remarks i've ever heard.

[Poncho]

but what about a politician or political leader (incl. those with access to the political parties from the christian coalition or evangelical church) who uses and touts "social conservativism" to gain power and use it against others for their own personal gain or bias'?


Again... the same can be said about the other side as well. You know this HP.... this is basic politics. You say what you have to to get voted. Rarely do we have a politician that doesn't pander to the voters... even if they don't believe/practice their positions. Really... and think about this... wouldn't you say Bush would fall into this rare category? I know you don't agree with him and I'm not asking you to, but don't you think that he is the first president in a while to say what he thinks/feels, and even do them to an extent, without concern about pandering to his voters who may have opposing view points. IMHO I think Bush is one of the most genuine presidents we've had in some time. Yes... he plays politics but I think he is actually doing what he thinks/feels is right for that reason only instead of getting votes.

or the "rich kid" who avoided a draft or war who now touts their patriotism and waves the flags for war and calls others "traitors" who might have actually volunteered and didnt wait to get drafted and demonstrated their willingness to fight and die for the country and even lost limbs and won medals for their bravery?


I see the "draft dodger" argument as BS. Vietnam was a VERY unpopular war and one that relied on the draft for soldiers. Personally I think the draft is BS anyway... and even if there was one today I wouldn't make judgements on people who avoided the War in Iraq, a war that I support BTW. I've got nothing but the utmost respect for ANYBODY who fights in ANY war this country is involved in... but that doesn't mean that I disrespect the people who choose not to fight. People can do great things for this country without serving. But... if you want some of the typical political "balance" let's not forget about Clinton who dodged the draft as well and went to Oxford instead of fighting. :D Not that I blame him or will ever criticize him for doing so.


i actually commend Poncho for taking up critical thinking classes. dood, thats cool because i actually am agreeing with some of the things you are saying lately. no one is infallible - thats very true. maybe hell is beginning to freeze over?

LOL... yea I took those classes a LONG time ago so i probably couldn't recite the terms for everything, but they were great classes nonetheless. Thanks for the praises though. Really... the biggest problem I have/had with you, ash, etc was the unwillingness to see both sides of the issue. You don't have to agree with me... but try to understand the other side and where they are coming from. Understand why people do what they do... and that doesn't mean you have to change. When you cut through the ideological differences we are all basically the same. :D

[Bunnyslayer]

THAT's IT!!!! WHAT IN THE HELL IS GOING ON AROUND HERE??? I SWEAR IT HAS TURNED INTO THE GORRAMN http://fusionlangaming.net//files/12/Flame-Poster.jpg WITH ALL THIS PONCHO/HONESTPLAYER SUCKYFACE GOING ON!!!! KNOCK IT OFF AND FIGHT GODDAMNIT!!!!!!!!





:heart:

[honestplayer]

Regardless of the final outcome in the Senate, Republicans knew they lost power Tuesday, and their leading voices found plenty to blame in their party.

Veteran conservative strategist Richard A. Viguerie was especially caustic.

''Every single member of the Republican leadership in the House should be replaced. They have failed the conservatives who put them in office, and they have failed the people of this country,'' Viguerie said. 'This election was also a referendum on the so-called `neoconservatives' -- the big-government Republicans who took us into a nation-building war while they busted the budget and enriched big business and its K Street lobbyists.''


this is the guy i was posting about, finally got his name, Viguerie. the guy literally invented modern grassroots politics.

as for this article, holy sh*t! if these guys (Viguerie and Keene) get their way and throw out what's left of the republicans and the discipline of the party returns comes back under them - i'd be pretty much VERY concerned if i was pelosi or reid. these guys know how to build political machines:

--article on Republican fallout after the elections--

FALLOUT

Republicans take shots at their leaders in CongressRepublicans blamed their party leadership in Congress for Tuesday's losses at the polls.
By STEVEN THOMMA
sthomma@mcclatchydc.com

WASHINGTON - Republicans turned on one another Wednesday after losing control of power in Congress -- blaming an out-of-touch, self-promoting party leadership for abandoning ethics and conservative principles and turning off the country.

The first political casualty was House Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill., who announced he would step down from the party's leadership.

More casualties were possible. At least one conservative movement leader demanded that Republicans in the House of Representatives delay electing leaders for the next Congress beyond the scheduled date of next Wednesday, presumably to allow time to reconsider the current slate.

Discontent could spread to the Senate, where Republicans lost a fifth seat Wednesday in Montana. There, Democrat Jon Tester defeated Republican Sen. Conrad Burns, who was hurt by his ties to disgraced lobbyist Jack Abramoff.

That put Democrats into at least a 50-50 tie with Republicans for Senate control.

That left Virginia, where Democrat James Webb led Republican Sen. George Allen by about 7,000 votes out of 2.3 million cast. Allen refused to concede, saying he would wait to see final official results on Nov. 27 before deciding whether to seek a recount.

If Webb's lead holds, Democrats will control the Senate. If Allen wins a recount, then Vice President Dick Cheney would break the tie to let Republicans control the Senate, though their grip on power would be much diminished compared with the past five years.

`SHOULD BE REPLACED'

Regardless of the final outcome in the Senate, Republicans knew they lost power Tuesday, and their leading voices found plenty to blame in their party.

Veteran conservative strategist Richard A. Viguerie was especially caustic.

''Every single member of the Republican leadership in the House should be replaced. They have failed the conservatives who put them in office, and they have failed the people of this country,'' Viguerie said. 'This election was also a referendum on the so-called `neoconservatives' -- the big-government Republicans who took us into a nation-building war while they busted the budget and enriched big business and its K Street lobbyists.''

In one of the most stinging indictments, David Keene, the longtime president of the American Conservative Union -- the nation's oldest grass-roots conservative lobby, founded in 1964 -- ripped Republicans for spending more taxpayer money than Democrats had and for weak ethics.

''We have watched Republicans elected by promising the highest standards in terms of integrity come to Washington to do good and stay to do well for themselves, their families and their friends, and demean the offices to which they were elected in the process,'' Keene said.

``We have witnessed the hypocrisy of Republican leaders who came to Washington swearing an allegiance to upholding traditional values work to protect those among their number who have flaunted those values, morals and standards.

''We have stood by as Republicans have flaunted, twisted and ignored rules to achieve their own partisan, rather than principled, ends; leaders who have used earmarks to seduce reluctant members to vote for legislation they knew was wrong and kept votes open for hours while they and their White House allies bludgeoned their colleagues into line in support of such legislation,'' Keene said.

`DO-NOTHING CONGRESS'

Others argued that voters were turned off by the climate in Congress, particularly by its partisanship and a sense that Republican leaders looked the other way at scandals, including Abramoff's lobbying corruption and former Florida Rep. Mark Foley's sexual harassment of former male aides. Voters ''believed that we came to Washington to change government and government changed us,'' said Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz.

Voters also rebelled at the sense that the Republican Congress didn't get anything done.

''There was a feeling of a do-nothing Congress,'' Republican pollster Ed Goeas said.

He said voters wanted ''bipartisan solutions rather than the partisan bickering we've seen'' and that Republicans want the party ``to make sure our leaders have public service as their highest calling, not personal enrichment.''

McClatchy reporter William Douglas contributed to this report.

[Ash]

we have yet to see how many dems sleep with children but hey things can happen :paranoid:

we have yet to see how many dems strip our civil rights but hey thins can happen :paranoid:

etcc...


this did not require fixing

we have YET TO SEE HOW MANY DEMS
not "IF"

you tards :rolleyes:

[Poncho]

this did not require fixing

we have YET TO SEE HOW MANY DEMS
not "IF"

you tards :rolleyes:


It's a strange strange day when HP seems like the most reasonable Democrat here... not to mention the fact that we are seeing eye to eye (though not agreeing on or changing our ideology). :D This might be one of the first signs of the apocalypse. :D

[Moddy]

You know that you're gonna get your ass kicked on the poker table tonite, rite?

[Poncho]

You know that you're gonna get your ass kicked on the poker table tonite, rite?


Well duh.

[antishatter]

Wow... you act like the dems are infallible or something. Dude... get off of it. Yes, the crimes (provided they are found to be accurate) that SOME republicans have committed as of late are terrible, but you act like there has never been, nor will there ever be, a Democrat that commits a crime. Are you really that fucking dense? Have you forgotten about Kennedy? That fucker killed a person. Fucking Christ you make me sick.

How dare the attack ash like that He has a huge iq. It is so high infact that he clearly knows everything there is to know about both the democratic and republican parties even if it hasnt happened yet. Its like saying an omniscient being is wrong!!!!!! :rolleyes:

[Ash]

How dare the attack ash like that He has a huge iq. It is so high infact that he clearly knows everything there is to know about both the democratic and republican parties even if it hasnt happened yet. Its like saying an omniscient being is wrong!!!!!! :rolleyes:


yet as in "at some point" it will happen not as in "it wont"

people are just reading my posts using their own slants
poncho is the most likely to do this though due to blinders

[atsui]

How dare the attack ash like that He has a huge iq. It is so high infact that he clearly knows everything there is to know about both the democratic and republican parties even if it hasnt happened yet. Its like saying an omniscient being is wrong!!!!!! :rolleyes:
reading what you write makes my brain melt. please, stop posting and take an English grammar class. kthnxbye




....just teasing. but really, I think this reply was a bit uncalled for, just a blantant attack on Ash.

[Poncho]

I think this reply was a bit uncalled for, just a blantant attack on Ash.


LMAO... yea, because his responses are always so compassionate and thoughtful. LOL

[Ash]

LMAO... yea, because his responses are always so compassionate and thoughtful. LOL


hold on, let me put that through my anti spin machine i got



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wow

ok now that i know the truth i will give you a hug and some kisses
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[Poncho]

ok now that i know the truth i will give you a hug and some kisses
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Your idiocy never ceases to amaze me.