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honestplayer
10-25-2006, 10:38 AM
just when you think politics can hit a new low, this comes up. what was it that was said about how mean and vile Republican politics has become again?

after this episode there is one conclusion: Rush is in fact, a loud mouthed oaf hooked on drugs and playing everyone who listens to him for an idiot...


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/24/AR2006102400691.html?nav=rss_politics


Rush Limbaugh On the Offensive Against Ad With Michael J. Fox

By David Montgomery
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, October 25, 2006; C01

Possibly worse than making fun of someone's disability is saying that it's imaginary. That is not to mock someone's body, but to challenge a person's guts, integrity, sanity.

To Rush Limbaugh on Monday, Michael J. Fox looked like a faker. The actor, who suffers from Parkinson's disease, has done a series of political ads supporting candidates who favor stem cell research, including Maryland Democrat Ben Cardin, who is running against Republican Michael Steele for the Senate seat being vacated by Paul Sarbanes.

"He is exaggerating the effects of the disease," Limbaugh told listeners. "He's moving all around and shaking and it's purely an act. . . . This is really shameless of Michael J. Fox. Either he didn't take his medication or he's acting."

Limbaugh, whose syndicated radio program has a weekly audience of about 10 million, was reacting to Fox's appearance in another one of the spots, for Missouri Democrat Claire McCaskill, running against Republican Sen. James M. Talent.

But the Cardin ad is similar. It is hard to watch, unless, for some reason, you don't believe it. As he speaks, Fox's restless torso weaves and writhes in a private dance. His head bobs from side to side, almost leaving the video frame.

"This is the only time I've ever seen Michael J. Fox portray any of the symptoms of the disease he has," Limbaugh said. "He can barely control himself."

Later Monday, still on the air, Limbaugh would apologize, but reaction to his statements from Parkinson's experts and Fox's supporters was swift and angry.

"It's a shameless statement," John Rogers said yesterday. Rogers, Fox's political adviser, who also serves on the board of the Parkinson's Action Network, added: "It's insulting. It's appallingly sad, at best."

"Anyone who knows the disease well would regard his movement as classic severe Parkinson's disease," said Elaine Richman, a neuroscientist in Baltimore who co-wrote "Parkinson's Disease and the Family." "Any other interpretation is misinformed."

Fox was campaigning yesterday for Tammy Duckworth, a congressional candidate, outside Chicago, when he alluded to Limbaugh's remarks. "It's ironic, given some of the things that have been said in the last couple of days, that my pills are working really well right now," he said, according to a report on the CBS2 Web site.

After his apology, Limbaugh shifted his ground and renewed his attack on Fox.

"Now people are telling me they have seen Michael J. Fox in interviews and he does appear the same way in the interviews as he does in this commercial," Limbaugh said, according to a transcript on his Web site. "All right then, I stand corrected. . . . So I will bigly, hugely admit that I was wrong, and I will apologize to Michael J. Fox, if I am wrong in characterizing his behavior on this commercial as an act."

Then Limbaugh pivoted to a different critique: "Michael J. Fox is allowing his illness to be exploited and in the process is shilling for a Democratic politician."

Limbaugh's shock at Fox's appearance is a measure of the disease's devastation, advocates say. Contrary to the charge that Fox might not take his medicine to enhance his symptoms, the medicine produces some of the uncontrolled body movements.

"Stem cell research offers hope to millions of Americans with diseases like diabetes, Alzheimer's and Parkinson's," Fox says in the Cardin ad. "But George Bush and Michael Steele would put limits on the most promising stem cell research."

Fox has appeared in ABC's "Boston Legal" this season. In his scenes, taped over the summer, Fox does not shake or loll his head as he does in the Cardin commercial, but does appear to be restraining himself, appearing almost rigid at times.

A source with direct knowledge of Fox's illness who viewed the Cardin ad said Fox is not acting to exaggerate the effects of the disease. The source said Fox's scenes in "Boston Legal" had to be taped around his illness, as he worked to control the tremors associated with Parkinson's for limited periods of time.

Bunnyslayer
10-25-2006, 11:16 AM
Sadly I wasn't suprised when I saw this last night. Gee a Republican burying his head in the sand about a dissease. Maybe Jeheesus can cure him if he becomes a good little Republican...

Vandalous
10-25-2006, 11:48 AM
"He is exaggerating the effects of the disease," Limbaugh told listeners. "He's moving all around and shaking and it's purely an act. . . . This is really shameless of Michael J. Fox. Either he didn't take his medication or he's acting."

How can this quote be translated to "Rush 'disses Parkinson Disease sufferers?" He was questioning Michael J. Fox specifically, not every single Parkinson's Disease sufferer.

Note that I'm not defending Rush as his statement is in very poor taste but let's not sensasionalize something and blow it completely out of proportions, as you did with your headline.

honestplayer
10-25-2006, 12:53 PM
making fun at someone for his or hers physical disabilities as the result of disease is poking fun at all of them with it. no matter, it was a pretty classless thing to do.

on the other had, those f-in gay activists in NJ are pissing me off today. just when it looked bad for the republican party with all the sh-t hitting them lately, those gay idiots decided to just hand them the f-in "gay marriage" issue today. something tells me that by tommorrow, every republican candidate in the country is going to be talking about it spewing their "family values" crock to voters.

what a f-in crock of sh-t, no wonder everybody doesnt support them on that issue. i wonder if foley is going to be the first one lined up to move to NJ?

Poncho
10-25-2006, 01:32 PM
making fun at someone for his or hers physical disabilities as the result of disease is poking fun at all of them with it. no matter, it was a pretty classless thing to do.


He wasn't poking fun at anybody, even Fox. He stated an opinion about how he feels that Fox is "acting" for his disability spots to pull at the heartstrings of voters and contributors. While I agree it was in bad taste... that is specifically what I expect out of ALL political, media personalities... liberal and conservative alike. You don't have to agree with him, hell... you don't even have to be nice to him. Call, write letters, protest, whatever.... but last time I checked he was free to piss people off, or was there a new "You can't offend anybody law" passed that I missed? Hell... The Dixe Chicks continually piss people off and offend them but I don't see you starting threads about that. :rolleyes:

Vandalous
10-25-2006, 01:33 PM
on the other had, those f-in gay activists in NJ are pissing me off today. just when it looked bad for the republican party with all the sh-t hitting them lately, those gay idiots decided to just hand them the f-in "gay marriage" issue today. something tells me that by tommorrow, every republican candidate in the country is going to be talking about it spewing their "family values" crock to voters.

How short people's memories are regarding these issues. They can't remember just 4 yrs ago when the Gay Marriage issue turned several states Red... Those on severe ends of both right and left are making fools of themselves and damaging their respective parties' chances. No matter how the polls go, it seems that the general public is moderate and shies away from drastic changes on either end.

honestplayer
10-25-2006, 02:58 PM
How short people's memories are regarding these issues. They can't remember just 4 yrs ago when the Gay Marriage issue turned several states Red... Those on severe ends of both right and left are making fools of themselves and damaging their respective parties' chances. No matter how the polls go, it seems that the general public is moderate and shies away from drastic changes on either end.

totally agree. totally stupid, put the republicans back into office with everyone panicking over this. yea, thats they way to get what they want. <EXTREME SARCASM>

honestplayer
10-25-2006, 03:03 PM
but last time I checked he was free to piss people off

so how about those NY G I A N T S? :P

:ROFL:

Sex Fruit
10-25-2006, 10:05 PM
This thread sucks

Ash
10-26-2006, 07:28 AM
I think that it had a reason to be created sucks

if only the blowass could learn to use tact :rolleyes:

Sex Fruit
10-26-2006, 08:41 AM
this thread sucks

DeadLamb
10-27-2006, 04:22 PM
blah stem blah blah.. as I've said before, make a matrix like baby farm if it "saves" normal people.... Hell I should be able to go have a kid now just to have him FROZEN in case I "need" something from him later..

of course for some reason I think that view might fail to get me elected..
Debate leader: "Your opponent is pro life, where you do you stand on that issues?"
Lamb "I should be able to have my kids frozen for my own selfish organ harvest needs later in life"

paper next day "Lamb's numbers fall by 85% in local polls"

God
10-27-2006, 06:24 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8lsjfjgAA8

atsui
10-27-2006, 07:14 PM
[I]How can this quote be translated to "Rush 'disses Parkinson Disease sufferers?" He was questioning Michael J. Fox specifically, not every single Parkinson's Disease sufferer.

Note that I'm not defending Rush as his statement is in very poor taste but let's not sensasionalize something and blow it completely out of proportions, as you did with your headline.
I actually agree with you.

atsui
10-27-2006, 07:24 PM
on the other had, those f-in gay activists in NJ are pissing me off today. just when it looked bad for the republican party with all the sh-t hitting them lately, those gay idiots decided to just hand them the f-in "gay marriage" issue today.
What The Fuck?!
How dare you sit there and play politics with our rights and tell us we need to keep quiet so the other side will still look bad in the press? You want our votes to swing Democratic but you want to hide us in the corner like a relative people are ashamed of?!

/end pro-gay marriage. sorry Mykul, I'm done, promise

atsui
10-27-2006, 07:28 PM
This thread sucks
yet another thing we agree on. I'm gettin scared :ROFL:

Moddy
10-27-2006, 07:37 PM
Wh

/end pro-gay marriage. sorry Mykul, I'm done, promise


This is the PP - no need to apologize. Plus, I already learned my lesson with you :heart:

Anasazi
10-27-2006, 11:26 PM
What really disturbes me is Honestplayers use of "F-ing" and "Sh_t"


Why even do that when everyone over the age of 10 know what the hell you're saying? Despite the fact that no one here is under 10 years of age. (Antishatter may look like it, but don't be fooled)

That's just fucking annoying. If you're going to use the damn word at least put some passion into it and spell it out.

Anasazi
10-27-2006, 11:28 PM
/end pro-gay marriage. sorry Mykul, I'm done, promise



SHENS!!!!!

We both know that with just a little push you'll put that needle in your arm and begin ranting again. :ROFL:

Sex Fruit
10-28-2006, 12:33 AM
sigh

Moddy
10-28-2006, 06:37 AM
SHENS!!!!!

We both know that with just a little push you'll put that needle in your arm and begin ranting again. :ROFL:
will you protect me?

Ash
10-28-2006, 02:05 PM
sigh

uhm... you can always "just not read the thread" hero ;)

DeadLamb
10-28-2006, 02:23 PM
meh.. rush is a media whore.. much like any other media clown he only cares that people hear him honk his nose..

his far right fans don't really care if he does any research or fact checking on any given story, they just want the ranting and left bashing.

The far left groups that listens to him with the idea of bitching only bother to "react" to stuff he says. Sure, maybe they check the facts more but it's always in hindsight..

Rush should have known who he was :poke: at, in this case he screwed up being fox is so well liked. I'm also sure rush's numbers went up after this so wtf does he really care? Not as if fox is going to run over there, jump on Rush's back monkey style and shake him to death like a can of paint at the hardware store..

but I would like to see Fox try of course..

Vandalous
10-29-2006, 12:50 AM
Not as if fox is going to run over there, jump on Rush's back monkey style and shake him to death like a can of paint at the hardware store...
zOMG! ROFL LOL