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Gremlin
11-25-2003, 07:47 AM
AUSTIN, Texas (AP) -- After an onslaught of complaints, computer maker Dell Inc. has stopped using a technical support center in India to handle calls from its corporate customers.

Some U.S. customers have complained that the Indian technical-support representatives are difficult to communicate with because of thick accents and scripted responses.

Tech support for corporate customers with Optiplex desktop and Latitude notebook computers will instead be handled from call centers in Texas, Idaho and Tennessee, Dell spokesman Jon Weisblatt said Monday.

Calls from some home PC owners will continue to be handled by the technical support center in Bangalore, India, and Weisblatt said Dell has no plans to scale back the operation there.

"Customers weren't satisfied with the level of support they were receiving, so we're moving some calls around to make sure they don't feel that way anymore," Weisblatt said. He would not discuss the nature of the dissatisfaction with the call center in Bangalore.

Dell is one of a number of high-tech companies that have in recent years moved jobs to India and other developing nations for the cheaper labor, which in Dell's case helps keep down the cost of providing round-the-clock support.

Corporate customers account for about 85 percent of Dell's business, with only 15 percent coming from the consumer market. Worldwide, Dell employs about 44,300 people. About 54 percent are abroad.

Among Dell customers dissatisfied with the company's use of overseas labor is Ronald Kronk, a Presbyterian minister in Rochester, Pennsylvania, who has spent the last four months trying to solve a problem that resulted in his being billed for two computers. The problem, he said, is that the Dell call center is in India.

"They're extremely polite, but I call it sponge listening -- they just soak it in and say, 'I can understand why you're angry,' but nothing happens," Kronk said.

He added: "Every time I see a Dell commercial on TV, I just cringe. They make it sound so easy and it's been a nightmare."

Bullfrog
11-25-2003, 08:18 AM
MUST....RESIST.....FROM....ADDING....

HP has done the same thing as have a number of large company's that tried pushing all tech support off-shore. We are doing it here internally and people here are PISSED because they get the same type of response. Very polite but don't have a god-damn clue how to help you.

Anasazi
11-25-2003, 08:20 AM
We're doing it too. Sucks ass too.

Not only do I have to talk to them just to bring up circuits in India, but now we've got to talk to them for support. Damn.

Bullfrog
11-25-2003, 01:53 PM
Originally posted by Anasazi
We're doing it too. Sucks ass too.

Not only do I have to talk to them just to bring up circuits in India, but now we've got to talk to them for support. Damn.

It's like talking to a Big Bird...you get a polite response but you can tell they just don't get it. This is going to really bite a lot US company's in the ass. Don't get me wrong...I have nothing against India but they sure don't perform as the marketing pitch says they do.

I think it's a big mistake to put customer support organizations in such radically different cultural zones. You can't make someone act like a culture by giving them scripts, Power Point slides and MTV. If you don't know your customer how in the hell can you support them?

Defiant One
11-25-2003, 08:02 PM
You guys have no idea.... I have to deal with those trained-monkeys on a daily basis, and most of the time I wish I could just reach through the phone and choke the curry out of the polite assholes!!!

This is a good thing for the "business" side of Dell, but it won't happen for the home users. The horror stories I hear from home-users about being transferred 4-12 times, and hold times in excess of an hour, as well as having to crack their own cases ~ would just astound you.

PsychoSilva
11-25-2003, 08:34 PM
Those poor people... lol

Chronoglass
11-26-2003, 07:25 AM
and company large enough to have more than 1 call center for customer service is going to have horror stories of stupidness

why?

no one actually cares wether or not a customer service person can provide customer service.. the companies are worried about warm bodies filling chairs, who the fuck cares what they actually sound like or wether or not they've finished highschool, or can count to... 1

it's too expensive to test for competancy.. so instead what's done is they're trained at a fairly low cost by training means a few are weeded out during this.. but not many, then set out to become those warm bodies, scripts in hand.. the hope being that if they arn't good enough to perform the job, they'll be caught at not performing and be weeded out

they always underestimate just how lucky the stupid are.. I mean shit, they've already managed to wake up and brush their teeth without some grevious injury, these are obviously the lucky ones of the group that was meant for some girls throat

cove
11-26-2003, 12:10 PM
Heh, it's all 'call resolution', 'call duration" and stuff like that, that the management looks at too.

The article only talks about corporate calls, does Dell send their consumer calls overseas?

Chronoglass
11-26-2003, 12:33 PM
how does one measure "one call resolution"? I know here we do our best to "coach to it" but it's not measured in any way, just prefered

agents are monitored on 4 calls a month, and those 4 calls are considered to be their average for the month. ha ha.. please

call length is measured, sure... but it's easier for an idiot to frustrate a person to the point of hanging up than someone who has at least some idea of what's going on

it comes down to people taking calls... the measurement that the overall company looks at is are we handling the load? The measurement that assures our funding is are 80% of the people that call here having their call answered in under 2 seconds

recently they've started adding in... are the customers that are calling in being sold products that make the company money? to assist in determining how much money is funneled into this little operation

From my experience with a few other call centers, it's no different

bodies take calls, how they handle them isn't too important

Defiant One
11-26-2003, 07:52 PM
Originally posted by cove
The article only talks about corporate calls, does Dell send their consumer calls overseas?

A big, resounding YES! The SOHO users are going to continue to get the big "FU".

cove
11-27-2003, 07:54 PM
^^

heh heh

I have only called support a few times for various comsumer goodies, a cel phone, Dell laptop, etc, and each and every time I ended up talking to some fucknut that just had to be the stupidest PoS on the planet...

enervate
11-27-2003, 08:37 PM
Originally posted by Defiant One
A big, resounding YES! The SOHO users are going to continue to get the big "FU".

Oh that's right, big 'ol Def bought himself a Dell. Well now, see what we've gotten ourselves into.

Defiant One
11-28-2003, 06:47 AM
Originally posted by enervate
Oh that's right, big 'ol Def bought himself a Dell. Well now, see what we've gotten ourselves into.

Through Small Business....:rolleyes:

And I've already had them pay me to fix it! :D

atsui
11-28-2003, 06:55 AM
Originally posted by ihateyoudavid
bodies take calls, how they handle them isn't too important
but, but... but David, what about company policy and how much they care about the customer?! :rolleyes:

fuck call centers, it's all bullshit anyway. i HATE customers and their stupid asses and only WISH i spoke Korean so I could piss them off more!

atsui
11-28-2003, 09:57 AM
:ROFL: I just got an email about this!